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Nick Bradshaw 10-21-2023 06:32 PM
Looks like a lot of the context is missing. Guess they were quick to delete the criticism, but gladly left the RD flex.

I guess that's where we are now. RDs calling guys in for discipline hearings on an open forum because someone got their feelings hurt.

This is not the company it used to be. The 4th floor has completely lost control of their troops and it's just escalating violence.

"This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it."

CBreezy 10-21-2023 06:32 PM
Originally Posted by ancman (Post 3713441)
Completely inappropriate on the part of the chief pilot. We have some real tools in our CPOs. Under Burns, any true pilot advocates in these offices have been flushed out quickly.
Above CPO. A regional director.
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Thruster 10-21-2023 06:35 PM
Originally Posted by ancman (Post 3713441)
Completely inappropriate on the part of the chief pilot. We have some real tools in our CPOs. Under Burns, any true pilot advocates in these offices have been flushed out quickly.
Where do you think BP cut his teeth?

Lvjhr 10-21-2023 06:39 PM
Originally Posted by HelloNewnan (Post 3713446)
Which is exactly why ALPA said not to go on to Skynet. They knew someone would say the wrong thing and wind up in the CPO.
Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3713448)
Above CPO. A regional director.
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Slc - chief pilots office is a class act. (Brian Cink, regional director), chief pilots, assistant chiefs, and secretaries. All pilot advocates!

crazyjaydawg 10-21-2023 06:42 PM
Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3713418)
I don’t SkyHub often because I loathe it but I surfed it tonight to get a vibe. Wow, the tone on both sides has changed. Temperatures are rising. A chief pilot actually got on there and admonished somebody and gave them a time and date to meet him. Praise in public and criticize in private. They are losing the ability to shape the narrative on their own propaganda site.
There were some deleted posts that involved colorful language from the pilot in question. That’s what got the CPO involved. They left the post up with the hard hand from the CPO to “send a message.” A swing and miss if you ask me.

I agree with your premise though, Skynet is losing control. It’s all starting to look like chitchat. JZ’s assertion that everyone in FOPs always has the line pilots’ interests in mind is very laughable.

ancman 10-21-2023 06:54 PM
Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3713448)
Above CPO. A regional director.
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One of PB’s direct bootlickers. Not surprising.

sweephisleg 10-21-2023 07:43 PM
Originally Posted by Lvjhr (Post 3713450)
Slc - chief pilots office is a class act. (Brian Cink, regional director), chief pilots, assistant chiefs, and secretaries. All pilot advocates!
You've got to be kidding me. BC is the biggest yes-man known at Delta. He's made it clear he will do what it takes to try and climb the ladder, and will throw any pilot under the bus to do so. He has admitted not wanting to fly the line again. He is the worst thing to possibly happen to the west region. We have had more pilots needing representation under him than ever before. Standards pilots in region refuse to even interact with him. It's pathetic to see this adversarial attitude pushed down to the RD level, but BC is that personified.

LAXtoDEN 10-21-2023 08:31 PM
Originally Posted by sweephisleg (Post 3713475)
You've got to be kidding me. BC is the biggest yes-man known at Delta. He's made it clear he will do what it takes to try and climb the ladder, and will throw any pilot under the bus to do so. He has admitted not wanting to fly the line again. He is the worst thing to possibly happen to the west region. We have had more pilots needing representation under him than ever before. Standards pilots in region refuse to even interact with him. It's pathetic to see this adversarial attitude pushed down to the RD level, but BC is that personified.
I think Lvjhr was being sarcastic.

Viper25 10-22-2023 03:24 AM
Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg (Post 3713452)
There were some deleted posts that involved colorful language from the pilot in question. That’s what got the CPO involved. They left the post up with the hard hand from the CPO to “send a message.” A swing and miss if you ask me.

I agree with your premise though, Skynet is losing control. It’s all starting to look like chitchat. JZ’s assertion that everyone in FOPs always has the line pilots’ interests in mind is very laughable.
Is there any more fidelity on what he said in the deleted posts? What were the specific complaints about that got high visibility? Don’t need the colorful language. Just the context.

Boatbuilder 10-22-2023 04:41 AM
I find all of this very fatiguing.


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