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JamesBond 10-21-2023 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3713380)
Bingo. And it’s not illegal for them to allow it to go there. Ethical? That word no longer matters on Wall Street.

It never did.

crewdawg 10-21-2023 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by Jaww (Post 3713380)
Bingo. And it’s not illegal for them to allow it to go there. Ethical? That word no longer matters on Wall Street.


And it really shouldn't matter to the group. "It's business." Lol

ancman 10-21-2023 03:17 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3713379)
Y'all are acting like this is something new. Did you really think this contract 'fixed' anything? It just got your pay codified for transgressions and nothing more (for the most part).

Nope. I never had any trust or confidence in our management before, during, or after the contract signing. Both ALPA and a segment of our pilot group became complacent toward this management team around the time of the contract signing, however. That’s a mistake.

Jaww 10-21-2023 03:18 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3713381)
It never did.

Very true.

JamesBond 10-21-2023 03:21 PM


Originally Posted by ancman (Post 3713384)
Nope. I never had any trust or confidence in our management before, during, or after the contract signing. Both ALPA and a segment of our pilot group became complacent toward this management team around the time of the contract signing, however. That’s a mistake.

Yeah but I'll bet you believed this MEC finally beat them.

GH and team were out of Raleigh by 2pm after dropping their 'last best 'offer. Think about that for a moment. They laughed all the way home.

Nick Bradshaw 10-21-2023 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3713375)
No it isn't. Someday you'll learn that the money isn't the most important part to management. Ever wonder why everything else takes so long and the payrates happen seemingly overnight?

Bingo. The money is meaningless. It's all about control.

ancman 10-21-2023 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by JamesBond (Post 3713386)
Yeah but I'll bet you believed this MEC finally beat them.

GH and team were out of Raleigh by 2pm after dropping their 'last best 'offer. Think about that for a moment. They laughed all the way home.

I voted no to this PWA. I’m the wrong person to address that one.

JamesBond 10-21-2023 03:51 PM


Originally Posted by ancman (Post 3713388)
I voted no to this PWA. I’m the wrong person to address that one.

Good to know.

tennisguru 10-21-2023 04:03 PM

I care what management thinks of me the same amount they care what I think of them. These are how I prioritize things when it comes to work: my needs, the needs of the other pilot, the needs of the FA's, the needs of the passengers, the needs of any other frontline employee, and lastly the needs of the company. Sometimes all of those needs are in alignment. For example, everyone wins when I operate safely and don't crash. Generally it is to my and everyone else's benefit to arrive on time or early. If the FA's have been going all day without a meal, then I'm going to delay the flight to go get them some food. If I need to eat, sleep, or poop, I'm going to make sure that is taken care of properly before I ever worry about getting a flight off the gate. Unless it personally benefits me (generally by getting me done on the last day to go home) then I will rarely put in extra effort to prevent the operation from falling apart.

Management wants employees to go the extra mile for the company. Well the company won't even go the full mile they agreed to in the PWA let alone a single step extra. They are going to reap what they are sowing.

Gspeed 10-21-2023 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3713402)

Management wants employees to go the extra mile for the company. Well the company won't even go the full mile they agreed to in the PWA let alone a single step extra. They are going to reap what they are sowing.

BP and RG will be in the ATL crew room on Monday. I hope someone reminds them of this.


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