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overqualified52 10-27-2023 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by Eddiewouldgo (Post 3713278)
“Nothing’s a contract violation until an arbitrator says it’s a contract violation.”

VP-Flight Operations and System Chief Pilot

Believe it or not this was actually said. I guess we can now see why “always keep your deals” was taken out of the rules of the road this year. Why would anybody go the extra mile when the company management makes a statement like this?

Hasn’t this been the airline MGT playbook now for about 50 years or more ? Continental and Eastern were the worst at violating contracts .

Whoopsmybad 10-27-2023 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by overqualified52 (Post 3716112)
Hasn’t this been the airline MGT playbook now for about 50 years or more ? Continental and Eastern were the worst at violating contracts .

Its not new, they are just finally being open about it.

Turbo1 10-27-2023 08:25 AM

It is management's total disdain for it's pilots that had me racing for the door when the veop was offered. I have never worked for any organization that had such total disregard for me as an employee. They went out of their way to make life difficult. Even the military embraced me more than dal......And that's pretty bad.

Nick Bradshaw 10-27-2023 10:51 AM

Yep. As predicted, the special MEC meeting resulted in another Strongly Worded Email and another video from Hartmann acting angry. Yeah, that'll do it. I'm sure Ed is shaking in his $500 sneakers. Oh and another stupid billboard outside ATL airport that management will also laugh at. No major dispute lawsuit. No media campaign. No wage theft complaint (which they have all the evidence they need for). DALPA has become the poster child of impotence.

So are we at least going hatless? Not a word from our "leadership" on tangible displays of unity.

Business as usual. Shut up, row, and pay your union dues.

OpsCheckOK 10-27-2023 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw (Post 3716324)
Yep. As predicted, the special MEC meeting resulted in another Strongly Worded Email and another video from Hartmann acting angry. Yeah, that'll do it. I'm sure Ed is shaking in his $500 sneakers. Oh and another stupid billboard outside ATL airport that management will also laugh at. No major dispute lawsuit. No media campaign. No wage theft complaint (which they have all the evidence they need for). DALPA has become the poster child of impotence.

So are we at least going hatless? Not a word from our "leadership" on tangible displays of unity.

Business as usual. Shut up, row, and pay your union dues.

Hard to believe that we are not initiating a wage theft lawsuit and going “hats off” or something else that bothers them in the meantime. Their solution is to pass the buck so we, the dues paying pilots can become accountants and payroll specialists.

I’ll attend and get some insight on our top secret coded payroll tickets; I applaud them for at least initiating that, but it’s certainly not something to lead with or be taken seriously by management.

Hotel Kilo 10-27-2023 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Nick Bradshaw (Post 3716324)
Yep. As predicted, the special MEC meeting resulted in another Strongly Worded Email and another video from Hartmann acting angry. Yeah, that'll do it. I'm sure Ed is shaking in his $500 sneakers. Oh and another stupid billboard outside ATL airport that management will also laugh at. No major dispute lawsuit. No media campaign. No wage theft complaint (which they have all the evidence they need for). DALPA has become the poster child of impotence.

So are we at least going hatless? Not a word from our "leadership" on tangible displays of unity.

Business as usual. Shut up, row, and pay your union dues.


Originally Posted by OpsCheckOK (Post 3716342)
Hard to believe that we are not initiating a wage theft lawsuit and going “hats off” or something else that bothers them in the meantime. Their solution is to pass the buck so we, the dues paying pilots can become accountants and payroll specialists.

I’ll attend and get some insight on our top secret coded payroll tickets; I applaud them for at least initiating that, but it’s certainly not something to lead with or be taken seriously by management.

As predicted. Disappointed but not surprised. Clear now that DH is gunning for that primo FOPs management job on the 4th floor. This memo was paltry, ineffectual acquiesced to management and now, to top it all off, we have to do homework assignments just to get properly paid? This is a joke. This is minium a hats off and lawsuit filed moment. IDK maybe that's forthcoming. But it is Friday, so I'm sure the hospitality suite is rocking about now (5 o'clock somewhere amIright?).

MongoC5 10-27-2023 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3716358)
As predicted. Disappointed but not surprised. Clear now that DH is gunning for that primo FOPs management job on the 4th floor. This memo was paltry, ineffectual acquiesced to management and now, to top it all off, we have to do homework assignments just to get properly paid? This is a joke. This is minium a hats off and lawsuit filed moment. IDK maybe that's forthcoming. But it is Friday, so I'm sure the hospitality suite is rocking about now (5 o'clock somewhere amIright?).

I think y’all just are looking for a reason to not wear your hats lol😂 🎩

Mongo

Gunfighter 10-27-2023 02:00 PM


Originally Posted by MongoC5 (Post 3716389)
I think y’all just are looking for a reason to not wear your hats lol😂 🎩

Mongo

The management team does not disappoint. They are giving us plenty of reasons. Full pay for a full uniform. Top off my pay and I'll top off my uniform. I can't find something as smooth as "Hats off to a new contract" . Maybe we recycle that into "Hats off to keeping your deals." Hats off to honoring a contract.

SkiBum95 10-27-2023 09:44 PM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 3716400)
The management team does not disappoint. They are giving us plenty of reasons. Full pay for a full uniform. Top off my pay and I'll top off my uniform. I can't find something as smooth as "Hats off to a new contract" . Maybe we recycle that into "Hats off to keeping your deals." Hats off to honoring a contract.

I like that “Full pay for full uniform” - ties and hats off

Gunfighter 10-28-2023 09:08 AM


Originally Posted by SkiBum95 (Post 3716523)
I like that “Full pay for full uniform” - ties and hats off

Untie our contract
Untie our pay

I'll refrain from any jacket removal slogans.


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