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Nick Bradshaw 10-26-2023 07:43 AM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3715700)
Pay attention to how DALPA responds to the latest shot across our bow from BP (really from JL, PB, and RG et al.) Another strongly worded letter? Or will we actually see some action from the MEC. The anticipation is riveting...

Of course they will. Because that's really all the RLA allows them to do. Strongly worded letters, public shaming in the media, "informational picketing" (whoa management really shakes in their sneakers on that one).

Maybe they'll at least throw us a bone and tell us we can take our hats off again this winter. At least that would be something, and it probably aggravates management the worst of all the paltry options. But the best option would be a a major dispute lawsuit over management's blatant thumbing their noses at us and saying they won't keep their deals (no longer a rule of the road).

PB's comment that nothing is illegal until an arbitrator decides it is should go down as the next biggest F-up they've made after Ed's comments on CNBC that we can't strike. The ramifications should be commensurate. As the kids say, "he said the quiet part out loud".

Hubcapped 10-26-2023 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3715700)
2007 and forward. I never said I dislike anyone. You and a few others just got bent out of shape at the word I used. Noob. Yes compared to me and a few other seniors here, you are noobs. Noobs to Delta Air Lines. Noobs to this management "team". The fact you get bent on a word (as you often are hostile to myself and others here) it really demonstrates where we are at doesn't it. Pay attention to how DALPA responds to the latest shot across our bow from BP (really from JL, PB, and RG et al.) Another strongly worded letter? Or will we actually see some action from the MEC. The anticipation is riveting...

is your SA really so low that you cant understand why you garner hostility?

the way you talk dude. Try and comport yourself like you arent hiding behind a keyboard and you’ll probably gain more traction. Less vitriol, less antagonism, less condescension.

theres no way you would act like this to another dudes face, maybe dont do that here. Youll find more willing recipients

FangsF15 10-26-2023 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by Hubcapped (Post 3715770)
is your SA really so low that you cant understand why you garner hostility?

the way you talk dude. Try and comport yourself like you arent hiding behind a keyboard and you’ll probably gain more traction. Less vitriol, less antagonism, less condescension.

theres no way you would act like this to another dudes face, maybe dont do that here. Youll find more willing recipients

^^^This^^^

Hotel Kilo 10-26-2023 01:30 PM


Originally Posted by Hubcapped (Post 3715770)
is your SA really so low that you cant understand why you garner hostility?

the way you talk dude. Try and comport yourself like you arent hiding behind a keyboard and you’ll probably gain more traction. Less vitriol, less antagonism, less condescension.

theres no way you would act like this to another dudes face, maybe dont do that here. Youll find more willing recipients

I'm actually, well I used to be a very public and accessible part of FOPs. I left that game many years ago when Grinstein brought EB back to Delta. About the time I saw EB ascending in 2009-10ish I knew it was time to go back to the line and just do my thing.

BTW that "act in your face" comment is threatening. You might want to read the TOS for this site. You are doing and acting precisely what you just chastised me about. Hypocrite much? Oh, and my comport is just fine junior, thank you. I'll keep it right where its at.

Let's focus on the topic at hand, management. Adjust your fire and target the real issue(s). Anything from the MEC yet?

CBreezy 10-26-2023 01:33 PM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3715906)
I'm actually, well I used to be a very public and accessible part of FOPs. I left that game many years ago when Grinstein brought EB back to Delta. About the time I saw EB ascending in 2009-10ish I knew it was time to go back to the line and just do my thing.

You shouldn't be so bitter young man.

BTW that "act in your face" comment is threatening. You might want to read the TOS for this site. You are doing and acting what you chastise me about. Hypocrite much?

How is that threatening?

Hotel Kilo 10-26-2023 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3715909)
How is that threatening?

Pretty obvious the intent of the comment he made. If you can't see it, I can't help.

Now, back to the real issue here - management.

CBreezy 10-26-2023 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3715912)
You can't be that dense. Oh wait, yeah, you can.

So you can't explain how it's threatening. Typical ad hominem to cover up that you don't know what you're talking about.

Jaww 10-26-2023 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3715912)
Pretty obvious the intent of the comment he made. If you can't see it, I can't help.

Now, back to the real issue here - management.

Just because you say the conversation is over does not make it so. Get a clue man. You have a lot to offer but you need to atone for your poor behavior.

Iceberg 10-26-2023 07:47 PM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3715912)
Pretty obvious the intent of the comment he made. If you can't see it, I can't help.

Now, back to the real issue here - management.

So you do act like this in person?

Hubcapped 10-26-2023 11:14 PM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3715906)
I'm actually, well I used to be a very public and accessible part of FOPs. I left that game many years ago when Grinstein brought EB back to Delta. About the time I saw EB ascending in 2009-10ish I knew it was time to go back to the line and just do my thing.

BTW that "act in your face" comment is threatening. You might want to read the TOS for this site. You are doing and acting precisely what you just chastised me about. Hypocrite much? Oh, and my comport is just fine junior, thank you. I'll keep it right where its at.

Let's focus on the topic at hand, management. Adjust your fire and target the real issue(s). Anything from the MEC yet?

#1. ill give you troll points
# 2. it was “act in a dudes face” not “act in your face”, the distinction is paramount to your insinuation. You either knowingly skewed the words to play the martyr like a child or your reading comprehension es no bueno
# 3. When 5 other people agreed, its not up to you to say your behavior is ok, a good pilot would take the debrief and learn from it
#4. If you truly believed you were being threatened, and failed to understand its advice for you to be able to actually reach people, i just pity you.

So i will say it again in exactly the same way. You wouldnt act like this to a dudes face, so maybe dont act like a condescending, vitriol spitting, aggressive a-hole here, and you will get more traction with your comments. If you feel like that is a threat, you literally cannot comprehend english.

can you imagine being an old timer and this scared of the world? Holeee fuk no thank you


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