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Old 01-19-2024 | 07:08 AM
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Has nobody ever thought about re-initing the box when presented with too much over the top testesterone laden "don't touch the box if you're not flying".

I never had anybody push too hard(as Fangs reported), but as a capt and as a FO I've had the "stink eye" with some push back .......both times I just dumped the box and said...."It's all yours, knock yourself out, I'm going for coffe, you want anything?"

That leaves them scratching their head as they don't know what to think.

Maybe a little too passive/aggressive for some?
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Old 01-19-2024 | 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Has nobody ever thought about re-initing the box when presented with too much over the top testesterone laden "don't touch the box if you're not flying".

I never had anybody push too hard(as Fangs reported), but as a capt and as a FO I've had the "stink eye" with some push back .......both times I just dumped the box and said...."It's all yours, knock yourself out, I'm going for coffe, you want anything?"

That leaves them scratching their head as they don't know what to think.

Maybe a little too passive/aggressive for some?
I had a captain one time swap databases right after I finished loading the box (I was PF too).

After giving him the wtf did you do that he told me it was part of his habit and didn’t realize I had the box loaded. What he thought I was doing typing at the box for the last 10 min is beyond me.
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Old 01-19-2024 | 07:43 AM
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Originally Posted by FangsF15
Supposedly it was a 2-year study by Airbus, and we are aligning with thier procedures. Ignoring the fact the rollout of this was an absolute train wreck, I HATE this new checklist item.

The Vol 1 says the Captain checks the IGNITION is displayed or not on the [ECAM] memo and announces "IGNITION" or "NORM". Except with anti ice on in a 319/320, it was say "Ignition" regardless of the engine mode selector position, so that doesn't really work for the switch position. Besides, "Heavy Rain/Severe turbulence/Standing Water" are about as common as the times we use Wing Anti Ice, yet we don't add THAT to the checklist. Twice. I mean, what other "maybe/possibly" checklist itmes do we need to add to every day/every leg checklists??? Do we need to add "Engine Anti Ice ___" to the climb checklist? No, because we are capable of assesing and making a real-time decision. Not a fan.
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Old 01-19-2024 | 08:16 AM
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Deleted some posts, not letting this this thread get derailed into another inane battle.
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Old 01-19-2024 | 08:59 AM
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Configuring at the last second. You will never, ever, in any way….impress me with how close you can get to 1000 agl before getting it all done.

this is actually the only thing i get bent about. Checklists, radios, box, whatever….as long as it gets done who gas. But driving in, like your trying to skid your miata into your garage at 80 mph actually does **** me off. It’s incredibly immature. Buy a motorcycle, take your ego out of it. Technique….2500 ft should be a trigger….

I guess also not cleaning up after yourself, or being rude to underwing or FA, or……crap im getting old
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Old 01-19-2024 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Turbo1
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Publish or perish! 😁
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Old 01-19-2024 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by palooza
agree. Ship’s headset 100% on my fleet. Actually never flown with anyone who brought one…including after Covid. I won’t look someone up for this on icrew😂, but plug the dumb thing back in. Plenty of people don’t want to carry a headset around
Ship Headsets....yuck.

Im a big fan of carrying one's own personally selected and purchased headset. Get nice features like Bluetooth, noise canceling, and your own mic cover that can get as close to your lips as you want because it's your mic cover
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Old 01-19-2024 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
Speaking of gear grinding, I like the quarter fold. I like to store it in a place where I can see the next checklist for most checklists so I don't even have to literally lift a finger. It really grinds LCP gears that I'm not physically picking up the checklist and holding it in my hand. Had one comment on it that I should at least pretend to read it to which we got in an argument over whether or not I could see all the words from where I was sitting.
Had this as my defrief on a line check once. The funny thing was he had to take the JS back and I made a production of handling the checklist especially the climb check with a single item. Dramatic retrival from the holder, momentary placement on the cenetr console as I retieve my readers (which I don't need but carry because I'm aging) followed by several seconds fumbling and cleaning them, then confusion as to where I put the checklist, and for the finale a dramatic reading at an oppera singer's projected tone after a vocal warm up and jaw execises. The FO couldn't look left for several minutes, there must have been something interesting out of his side window. The LCA was amused but could not acknowledge it. Watched him litterally bite his lip twice. I have to keep cruise interesting or I might read something not authorized.
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Old 01-19-2024 | 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by palooza
agree. Ship’s headset 100% on my fleet. Actually never flown with anyone who brought one…including after Covid. I won’t look someone up for this on icrew😂, but plug the dumb thing back in. Plenty of people don’t want to carry a headset around
If you choose not to carry, we still need you proficient on the operation. Kinda like adjusting rudder pedal IMHO. Really, that's a complaint.
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Old 01-19-2024 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Abouttime2fish
The 73N checklist solution is a utility knife. Remove that stupid page holder on the dash. Checklists would find a new home, like under the clip by the EFB holder. Problem solved.
I used to like to use one checklist folded hot dog style to fish out the long gone fully quartered checklists that disappeared into the holder. Could usually amuse use for five minutes trying to dig them out and see how many were there. Think my record was 3.
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