Viper25

Wait….FO? Filler

tennisguru

If someone chooses to avail themselves of that option, why do you care? You are just as welcome to bid to CA and do the same thing.

170Till5

ALPA is typically the good old boys club. Just because you want to “volunteer” doesn’t mean they’ll take you

Planetrain

If it was just for the MEC officers and a few other 24J positions, no one would care. It’s all the other part time positions proposed to be paid 6:00/day plus travel days. That expense is paid for by
member dues. How do we give all those positions a minimum 14.3% raise and not raise dues? Go to DALPA.org and pull up the treasurer page. Go look at a quarterly FPL report and it’s 20 pages of volunteers. Each line is their monthly FPL. Maybe 30% are company paid.

Example: Pilot volunteers for Comm committee. They need them to attend MEC meeting in DTW.
Old schedule:
Sun night: Travel ATL-DTW unpaid
Mon: 5:15
Tues: 5:15
Wed: 5:15
Thu: 5:15, fly home on 5pm flight.
Total cost paid by dues: 21:00

Proposed schedule:
Sun night: Travel ATL-DTW 6:00
Mon: 6:00
Tues: 6:00
Wed: 6:00
Thu: 6:00, incentive to stay another night to get travel pay
Fri morning fly home DTW-ATL: 6:00, back by 9:00am.
Total cost paid by dues: 36:00

Cost increase to membership: 71.4%

TED74

But you said from home. I can do 18 days of work from home for over half a million a year, amiright?

Sign me up for that, and I guess I’ll see you on Zoom!

myrkridia

I was not making a wider point justifying this raise, just commenting on the fact that if we gave only those positions (24.J) a raise to 50 hours a day at company cost, we'd still have chodes coming out of the woodwork complaining it's not fair.

FangsF15

1. NOONE who works for ALPA volunteers their time for free. The euphemism “volunteer” is only used because people “raise their hand” to help - they don’t bid for it - but it is, and afaik always has been compensated.

2. ZERO people are making 108 working from home. Frankly, that’s a lie to even say any full-time folks are working from home. You know better. It is mandatory 18 days, minimum in the ALPA office on Hartsfield Center Pkwy for the full time folks, and they can’t pickup above that. Besides, the total number of people marking 108 is like 20ish, and over half of them are paid by the company, not our dues.

3. Have you ever been a “volunteer”? Or asked enough questions of people who are to actually understand how things work there? Not saying there aren’t some bad apples on occasion, but do you have the first clue how much work these people do for you?

4. You can be against this change, that’s fine. But k is what you are even talking about and don’t use garbage arguments.

Gspeed

In my experience it was the weirdos, whackjobs, and a-holes who weren’t graciously received.

Meme In Command

Simplest answer is most likely the correct one: someone of these 3 types was salty to get turned down and decided to start pushing the "good ol' boy club" narrative to make themselves feel better about getting rejected.

Buck Rogers

When I flew, I averaged 7-8 hours pay for each day gone. My kid, with 5 years sen, averages 7-8 hours pay for each day gone. 9 days of work for 76 hours of pay.

5:15/day seems abominable. 6:00/day plus commute seems reasonable from my perspective.