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12-10-2025 | 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ripinpeace

700-800 on top of hiring for attrition? That would make sense with the 3-4% growth statement. That’s 1,200-1,300 for the year.

just need airplane deliveries that support this theory. Still retiring 757s.

12-10-2025 | 03:51 PM

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700-800 on top of hiring for attrition? That would make sense with the 3-4% growth statement. That’s 1,200-1,300 for the year.

No. But you are nothing if not consistent in your (over) optimism...

They will fuel most of the growth with higher ALV’s. They have a lot of TLV headroom right now.

12-10-2025 | 03:59 PM

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700-800 on top of hiring for attrition? That would make sense with the 3-4% growth statement. That’s 1,200-1,300 for the year.

700-800 for the year. TLV allows them to run 2026 a little hot.

12-10-2025 | 04:01 PM

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700-800 for the year. TLV allows them to run 2026 a little hot.

I can't wait to see "a little hot" after months of IA coveragefest and flight ops comms complaining about cancellations due to crew availability

12-10-2025 | 04:02 PM

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I can't wait to see "a little hot" after months of IA coveragefest and flight ops comms complaining about cancellations due to crew availability

Hey, they made promises to the C-Suite on metrics they have to (try to) keep. /S

They’ll stall the airplane trying it tho…. Stick shaker be dammed.

12-10-2025 | 04:03 PM

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Hey, they made promises to the C-Suite on metrics they have to (try to) keep. /S

They’ll stall the airplane trying it tho…. Stick shaker be dammed.

You know, if you keep pulling up, the airplane climbs higher to infinity. It's physics

12-10-2025 | 04:45 PM

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I can't wait to see "a little hot" after months of IA coveragefest and flight ops comms complaining about cancellations due to crew availability

12-10-2025 | 05:00 PM

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You know, if you keep pulling up, the airplane climbs higher to infinity. It's physics

Or do a perfectly executed loop and end up right back where you were?

12-10-2025 | 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AlikesitR

Where in the PWA does it specify this? I was digging around today and couldn’t find anything speaking to this.

It's implied in 22.A.7.C. because if you still had a freeze, you would be ineligible to bid for the new category without the exception for a new or reestablished category. By being eligible to be awarded the newly established category, Crew Resources has, in effect, ended any category freeze you might have. Further, 22.G.2 and 22.G.5 are the only places that expressly address a cumulative category freeze. Of course, those two sections also wouldn't apply to a newly established category. (You would just get a 24 month seat freeze for the initial qual training).