C26 Hourly Rate Baselines
05-12-2025 | 03:20 PM
#631
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05-12-2025 | 03:23 PM
#632
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Zero chance the company agrees to this without dramaticaly reducing the amount we earn each year. I mean once you've been here 10+ years you could have 1000+ hours in the bank and go out sick for a year+ without needing to tap STD or LTD. I don't think negotiations happen the way you envision.
05-13-2025 | 04:55 AM
#634
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05-13-2025 | 06:10 AM
#635
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How about this:
We get completely rid of the sick leave harassment. We are in a job that requires us to constantly evaluate fitness for duty and to be in a situation where many are afraid to call in sick because of company policies is insane. Do our peers at other airlines have to deal with these same rules? I don’t think so but am also genuinely asking the question.
Here is what I’d like to see regarding our sick leave provisions.
1. Get rid of the “good faith basis” provisions. If someone is abusing the system then deal with those people. Don’t penalize the entire pilot group.
2. Sick leave basically becomes PTO. We can use it when we need to. Things happen. People get sick. Or, something pops up and you need some time off. That’s life and the company needs to stop treating us like children. At the negotiating table every time the company pushes back on this just bring up all the millions that have been stolen from us through the lack of pay transparency and just stare at them. They act like we are all huge sick leave abusers but what about the millions they’ve stolen from us and all the times they’ve willfully chosen to violate our contract.
3. Any unused sick time can be carried over from year to year. No limits on this. This could be especially beneficial because as we all age we will have more health problems and being able to carry from year to year will allow us to tap into a larger sick bank before going on disability.
We get completely rid of the sick leave harassment. We are in a job that requires us to constantly evaluate fitness for duty and to be in a situation where many are afraid to call in sick because of company policies is insane. Do our peers at other airlines have to deal with these same rules? I don’t think so but am also genuinely asking the question.
Here is what I’d like to see regarding our sick leave provisions.
1. Get rid of the “good faith basis” provisions. If someone is abusing the system then deal with those people. Don’t penalize the entire pilot group.
2. Sick leave basically becomes PTO. We can use it when we need to. Things happen. People get sick. Or, something pops up and you need some time off. That’s life and the company needs to stop treating us like children. At the negotiating table every time the company pushes back on this just bring up all the millions that have been stolen from us through the lack of pay transparency and just stare at them. They act like we are all huge sick leave abusers but what about the millions they’ve stolen from us and all the times they’ve willfully chosen to violate our contract.
3. Any unused sick time can be carried over from year to year. No limits on this. This could be especially beneficial because as we all age we will have more health problems and being able to carry from year to year will allow us to tap into a larger sick bank before going on disability.
05-13-2025 | 06:36 AM
#636
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Joined: Dec 2021
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How about this:
We get completely rid of the sick leave harassment. We are in a job that requires us to constantly evaluate fitness for duty and to be in a situation where many are afraid to call in sick because of company policies is insane. Do our peers at other airlines have to deal with these same rules? I don’t think so but am also genuinely asking the question.
Here is what I’d like to see regarding our sick leave provisions.
1. Get rid of the “good faith basis” provisions. If someone is abusing the system then deal with those people. Don’t penalize the entire pilot group.
2. Sick leave basically becomes PTO. We can use it when we need to. Things happen. People get sick. Or, something pops up and you need some time off. That’s life and the company needs to stop treating us like children. At the negotiating table every time the company pushes back on this just bring up all the millions that have been stolen from us through the lack of pay transparency and just stare at them. They act like we are all huge sick leave abusers but what about the millions they’ve stolen from us and all the times they’ve willfully chosen to violate our contract.
3. Any unused sick time can be carried over from year to year. No limits on this. This could be especially beneficial because as we all age we will have more health problems and being able to carry from year to year will allow us to tap into a larger sick bank before going on disability.
We get completely rid of the sick leave harassment. We are in a job that requires us to constantly evaluate fitness for duty and to be in a situation where many are afraid to call in sick because of company policies is insane. Do our peers at other airlines have to deal with these same rules? I don’t think so but am also genuinely asking the question.
Here is what I’d like to see regarding our sick leave provisions.
1. Get rid of the “good faith basis” provisions. If someone is abusing the system then deal with those people. Don’t penalize the entire pilot group.
2. Sick leave basically becomes PTO. We can use it when we need to. Things happen. People get sick. Or, something pops up and you need some time off. That’s life and the company needs to stop treating us like children. At the negotiating table every time the company pushes back on this just bring up all the millions that have been stolen from us through the lack of pay transparency and just stare at them. They act like we are all huge sick leave abusers but what about the millions they’ve stolen from us and all the times they’ve willfully chosen to violate our contract.
3. Any unused sick time can be carried over from year to year. No limits on this. This could be especially beneficial because as we all age we will have more health problems and being able to carry from year to year will allow us to tap into a larger sick bank before going on disability.
the airlines that have sick time structured like this get substantially less sick time every year
05-13-2025 | 06:41 AM
#637
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We just need to get rid of the good faith harassment. The problem isn't getting a note but the hassle. If you go over 120 then you are already seeing a doctor. The few day head and sinus cold once a season is the issue.
05-13-2025 | 07:30 AM
#638
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05-13-2025 | 08:59 AM
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05-13-2025 | 09:19 AM
#640
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I worked Pro Standards in a previous company. Every call, somewhere in the crew interview it was revealed that a crew member was not “in the green.” This is a huge threat mitigation for me since. If things in my life are too stressful or distracting, I’m not going to be focused enough flying. Sick call.
If what the company says is true I’d love to know what I’m supposed to do if I get a GFB call and while physically fine, I did not pass my IMSAFE checklist. Nobody wants to be that poster child but it’s all I think about when I read the corporate speak about mental health.
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