Im pretty sure that even if we align his moral compass, his reasoning has spread exponentially throughout the pilot group. Lots of “if you can’t beat them, join them” and growing every day. This is becoming very severe and growing.

That is correct. It’s literally a free for all (and has been for much longer than just the “present” circumstances)

I mean, if they were actually honoring the contract, they would contact the very minor pilot, get an answer/availablitity, then move on without allowing you out of the “assignment” unless out of position/alcohol/childcare reasons. But that’s not what they do. They robo call the entire category in the span of a few seconds, technically abiding by the “junior up” requirement. But then they ignore seniority completely, and even allow you to turn them down if you call.

Yup.



Move in base GS below OOBWS and the ladder will work just fine. Yes we should get more gains with this, as the current situation is worth more than this swap, but it should be in there.



Ya, the company has the very scary "no lookback" hanging over their head, QS should be implemented any day now...



Is it all that surprising? When you see the top page in your category collecting all the M7, while all the premium (or even WS in some cases) goes junior and they're not even covering IA within the contract, what do you think guys are going to do? Not saying I agree with it, but I understand it. It will definitely get worse until something is fixed.

don’t want to get left behind.

I don't know where this notion that the premium goes junior is coming from. You can count the number of people between me and the plug in my category on your fingers. I'm literally as junior as it gets. When it's IA palooza my phone either doesn't ring, or when it does the timestamp on the robocall is 20 min ago. A handful of times that it was close I actually tried to call only to be told someone else already took it. There's nothing inverse about IAs. It's not called out in inverse seniority, they just spam as much of the category as they can in one go to see who bites.

Even at my seniority I could usually cobble together 4-5 GS per year. Usually shorter trips at the last minute, but a GS is a GS and when you're junior you don't get to be picky. That's exactly the type of trip that now gets spammed as an IA, and ARCOS has been silent since this summer. It's easily costing me at least 15k per year. The M7 farmers and the deal makers are making out like bandits at the expense of the rest of the pilot group across all seniority levels. I can see why people get frustrated and start making deals too, because I've definitely thought about it as well. Ultimately I don't because I can't bring myself to it, I've just accepted I'll make a bit less money and shifted my strategy to staying at home, working as little as possible while collecting reserve guarantee, SCC, and a bit of soft pay from when I do fly.

I think this is totally the wrong attitude. Greed at the expense of your fellow pilots will be our undoing. If you miss out on a premium pay trip because someone jumped the gun that’s on them. QS will fix the free for all.

If the union is telling you not to make deals then don’t make deals.

Go look at ATL NB, a vast majority of IA's are going to the bottom half of the list. I'm almost never close to ALV and haven't received an IA call in months. I can count on one hand, how many actually made it to my seniority in the last few months. Agree with you on all the rest.



I agree that making your own deals is the wrong attitude, but I understand how the deal makers don't see themselves as any different than the sudden rush of auto-accepter/M7 farmers. Both are just trying to score easy money when they otherwise wouldn't have.

This is how people see the M7 farmers. I ran into some VERY angry and outspoken pilots during this last trip.

screw ALPA. They are allowing this problem.

How exactly is ALPA allowing this? Yes, in another industry we could pull a wildcat or something but we are constrained by the RLA, which makes anything ALPA does seem glacial.