Last night I was number nine of those who accepted a GS. Three+ hours later, it still was three pilots away from me...three hours to move 6 five pilots and that was with two pilots who immediately rejected the trip. An automated system would have gotten that far in well under half the time. At one point, it sat on a rejected pilots line for 45 minutes, then had multiple stints of it just sitting in open for 15-20 minutes before it was put on the next pilots line. This trip was running the same time on the B side and they were filled at nearly the same time, with the same issues of sitting on lines too long. Before we give up auto-accept, the system needs to be automated and/or we need more schedulers. Sure some auto-accepters are a small issue, but a far greater issue is the heavy reliance on GS, lack of automation and chronic understaffing of schedulers.



It is fun to go back and look the posts during some of those agreements. Many of those against, getting rid of batch sizes and other agreements, were told they were out to lunch and we're seeing they were right. Now we have pilots wanting to give away more things, just to get somewhat back to what we had before. It will be interesting to watch what happens when the QS gets implemented. How long will trips sit in open time to make it to the eight hour points, so they can just be shot gunned out QS?

It’s bull****. I 100 percent blame the company. They can put out as many comms as they want saying they are following PWA, but everyday we are reminded they are not just by watching trip coverage. I don’t want to give anything away. I want our coverage ladder back.

Here is the question of the week (I don't know the answer by the way). We gave away batch sizes, and now we probably agree that large batch sizes are part of this broad problem. Question: just because the company can have large batch sizes, does that obligate them to do so? Why don't they try small batch sizes to begin with, even if they don't have to contractually? Am I missing something super simple here? It is not like the large batch sizes that they now have (again) are exactly making things run smoothly.

That ship sailed because small batch sizes now don't do anything to tame the widespread use of auto accept. The solution needs to disincentivize pilots that don't intend to fly from submitting slips with auto accept on.

In the very post I quoted, you said you are ready to give up auto-accept. I'm with you on the coverage ladder frustration. I live on W inside of 48 hours and have been passed over a few times already and didn't get pay for it. But let's negotiation things that help us not just band aid the issue.



My understanding is that it's up to the individual scheduler what batch size they use. With a lack of scheduler staffing, it makes sense they'd just use the easy button and move on to the next fire. We were fools to not keep some semblance of guardrails on the batch sizes. Now that we are where we are, it's almost impossible to unring that bell without some agreement. Even then it's going to be tough to get people to pull their auto-accepts because they just don't trust their word.

The solution was already announced on November 1st. It’s called the quick slip.

I’m not sure why so many are calling for further concessions when the agreed-upon solution hasn’t even been implemented yet.

I called a few weeks back and asked the scheduler how things were going, and they were super polite and basically said it's a complete dumpster fire as expected. The overnight shift only has a couple schedulers to get things squared away by morning. They were very nice to talk to and I felt bad, they are just working with what little resources they have for very little pay.

Especially when you get to do years early.

I didn't assign blame or call for concessions. I stated what I believe to be a fact. I don't disagree with you on QS. I was trying to answer his question as objectively as I could

The only way to achieve what you propose is by eliminating auto-accept and/or the proffer. Both are huge concessions. Even 23M7 balancing doesn’t “disincentivize” farming, as now the entire pilot group has skin in the game.

QS is the (relatively) non-concessionary solution. Let them implement it.