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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
(Post 3974828)
The solution needs to disincentivize pilots that don't intend to fly from submitting slips with auto accept on.
The company over-batched and understaffed (pilots and schedulers) themselves into this conundrum. It’s going to be a very expensive hole for the company to dig out of. |
Originally Posted by Meme In Command
(Post 3974828)
The solution needs to disincentivize pilots that don't intend to fly from submitting slips with auto accept on.
It started with DH and the surrender. Then it progressed to the deal makers. Underlying it all was the company's unwillingness to properly staff. There's VAS as well that thus far they have decided not to use. Sorry some of you are missing out on GS and WS. This is the company's issue to solve, not ours. |
Originally Posted by Meme In Command
(Post 3974828)
That ship sailed because small batch sizes now don't do anything to tame the widespread use of auto accept. The solution needs to disincentivize pilots that don't intend to fly from submitting slips with auto accept on.
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Originally Posted by ancman
(Post 3974838)
The only way to achieve what you propose is by eliminating auto-accept and/or the proffer. Both are huge concessions. Even 23M7 balancing doesn’t “disincentivize” farming, as now the entire pilot group has skin in the game.
QS is the (relatively) non-concessionary solution. Let them implement it. |
Originally Posted by Meme In Command
(Post 3974844)
Fangs idea of a communal 23M7 pot would work in theory. Everyone gets a few bucks, the company still puts the same amount of money into the pilot group. Also, I don't think senior would risk not taking a GS they can hold for a few bucks of 23M7 or risking the IA roulette.
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Originally Posted by TED74
(Post 3974839)
The company over-batched and understaffed (pilots and schedulers) themselves into this conundrum. It’s going to be a very expensive hole for the company to dig out of.
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Originally Posted by ancman
(Post 3974845)
Aside from further watering down seniority, it incentivizes every pilot to ensure that every trip coverage results in a 23M7. Auto-accept use would absolutely increase with a communal pot.
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
(Post 3974849)
How does it water down seniority if things return to GS's being flown and covered in seniority order as originally intended???
The quick slip does everything you propose. It returns everything to “seniority order as originally intended”. The only difference is that QS with 23M7 costs the company significantly more than GS without 23M7. That equals massive leverage. |
Originally Posted by ancman
(Post 3974855)
Because that’s not what a communal pot would do. Auto-accept use would increase, not decrease. Currently 95% of the pilot group has no incentive to have every type of slip submitted with auto-accept on during their planned time off. Create a communal pot, and now everyone has that incentive. Trip coverage would remain glacially slow, and would result in 23M7 every time.
The quick slip does everything you propose. It returns everything to “seniority order as originally intended”. The only difference is that QS with 23M7 costs the company significantly more than GS without 23M7. That equals massive leverage. |
Originally Posted by Meme In Command
(Post 3974857)
Wait, I thought CS had to pay the affected 23M7 pilot before moving to the QS step. Did I misread that?
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