Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3973008)

Same. Got sick before a SC period (with no rotation on it yet) and no GFB. I wonder if the GFB campaign is specific to a certain base or bases.

Originally Posted by blue vortex (Post 3973035)

Yep Ive been asking around…have NOT heard if any GFB at all since the MOU.

Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3973038)

i got one, but they were the same circumstances i would expect one before the mou (suspicious as hell)

Originally Posted by Valar Morghulis (Post 3973032)

You’d would be wrong. ALPA won a huge grievance back in late 90s, maybe early 2000s. Company didn’t get the language they wanted in C96 or C2k and went ahead and tried to do a “reliability program” anyway. They got spanked hard by the Arbitrator and that’s why the “can’t use frequency as a basis” language is in the PWA.

Theres not much you can do to trip coverage without blowing up the good deals people have, both Reg and Res. If you look at UALs process, it would skunk most of the posters here, which I grant you is not a cross section of the pilot group.

According to a bud, UAL runs a PCS type system 6 times a day, and a FCFS system for close in coverage (must be posted for 2 hours and less than 20 hours to report, I think). Their open time gets worked day prior around noon (window is wider for some reserves).

It doesn’t seem like their reserves can play the same program as ours do, but their reserve system seems overall more robust for “regular sitting reserve” (for the company, not for any good deals). Premium time seems completely in the company’s control, not as automatic parts of trip coverage.

Be super sure that’s what you want to see happen before pressing to test on new trip coverage.

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 3973040)

What defines that to you (or by extension, to them)?

If a trip is “suspicious” just because it touches either side of a holiday period, weekend, vacation period, blocks of days off, training, any trip that was attempted to be dropped or traded or any big sporting event, that’s probably like 90% or more of all trips.

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 3973040)

What defines that to you (or by extension, to them)?

If a trip is “suspicious” just because it touches either side of a holiday period, weekend, vacation period, blocks of days off, training, any trip that was attempted to be dropped or traded or any big sporting event, that’s probably like 90% or more of all trips.

Originally Posted by OOfff (Post 3973044)

after assignment on reserve and fitting right up against vacation. fair enough, i’m not mad

Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 3973042)

Only "guaranteed" GFB I know of is calling sick AFTER getting a trip assigned on reserve for the next day.

Originally Posted by tennisguru (Post 3973008)

Same. Got sick before a SC period (with no rotation on it yet) and no GFB. I wonder if the GFB campaign is specific to a certain base or bases.

Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 3973042)

Only "guaranteed" GFB I know of is calling sick AFTER getting a trip assigned on reserve for the next day.

Originally Posted by gloopy (Post 3973046)

Gotcha. I do think DALPA should log and monitor all of them. GFB by nature clearly implies relatively rare. Too high of a rate or any noticeable increase above a reasonable mean should be brought to an arbitrator ASAP.

Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 3973052)

And/Or, they did a week or two surge on GFB, didn't catch any more 'fish', and decided it wasn't worth the 'doctor bills' they were getting.



I don't know about guaranteed, but a "Sick OK", where you call in sick, then OK within a day will often get a call. That's one of my 2 GFB's in double digit years (and was so legit, the CP actually verified me on the spot)



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