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Originally Posted by PositiveRate20
(Post 3973164)
Green slips are pretty much dead. IA’s went out this am for trips that were in open time at 8 pm last night….no GS calls ever went out. How this isn’t a contract violation is beyond me. In addition, this new IA system is rewarding pilots that aren’t working as much as their peers. If you’re a productive pilot that’s above ALV, you don’t get the call for an IA.
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How are people even getting through? I get an IA call and nobody answers. I agree with the above, no more green slips, straight to IA. I saw a 14k number on #3 today. Getting very frustrating.
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Originally Posted by TALPAtalker
(Post 3973210)
Yep. I share your pain. No GS calls since last summer, but plenty of IAs that I can’t grab in time.
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
(Post 3973220)
A consequence of the new MOU that blocks scheduling from running IA in the middle of another step of coverage means that scheduling is much less likely to ever start the GS step. Even if they have a few hours to report they have no idea how long that step will go until it finds someone who actually wants to fly it. So rather than risk running GS (or OOBWS, or any other bogged-down step) they just IA it.
Or in some instances, the WS step of coverage. |
Originally Posted by RightSide
(Post 3973219)
How are people even getting through? I get an IA call and nobody answers. I agree with the above, no more green slips, straight to IA. I saw a 14k number on #3 today. Getting very frustrating.
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Originally Posted by tennisguru
(Post 3973220)
A consequence of the new MOU that blocks scheduling from running IA in the middle of another step of coverage means that scheduling is much less likely to ever start the GS step. Even if they have a few hours to report they have no idea how long that step will go until it finds someone who actually wants to fly it. So rather than risk running GS (or OOBWS, or any other bogged-down step) they just IA it.
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Originally Posted by RightSide
(Post 3973219)
How are people even getting through? I get an IA call and nobody answers. I agree with the above, no more green slips, straight to IA. I saw a 14k number on #3 today. Getting very frustrating.
Don't worry man, the no sick lookback boogeyman has lit a fire under them to get this implemented, it will be fixed any day now...:D
Originally Posted by PositiveRate20
(Post 3973231)
They could’ve started GS coverage at 8 pm last night for today’s IA’s….10-12 hours before report. But nope. Wait until 5 am and send out IA. Is them sitting on trips to get within the IA window compliant with the spirit of the PWA? I understand the need for IA if someone calls in sick last minute or misses a commute. BUT sitting on a trip that’s had PLENTY of time to run appropriate coverage…..is that PWA compliant?
But it's all those dang auto-accepters fault! Are we taking bets on them doing the same thing with QS? Wait until 8 hours prior and hit the easy button on QS. |
Originally Posted by crewdawg
(Post 3973234)
Are we taking bets on them doing the same thing with QS? Wait until 8 hours prior and hit the easy button on QS.
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Originally Posted by Herkflyr
(Post 3973201)
Your negotiators likely wish you hadn't posted that. I can't believe that you are actually celebrating the fact that many self-absorbed sorts are actively--and proudly admitting to--taking steps to Gumm up the system, with zero intention or ability (being in Europe and all) to fly the slips they "claim" they want. This essentially forces the company to take steps that nuke provisions of our hard-won PWA.
"But it's my PWA right!" you bleat. Yes it is--and apparently the company gets to claim the same with their 23.M.7 steps that give 23.M.7 free money to super-senior sorts, while egging on a Hunger Games inspired IA free for all that rewards the junior and--much worse--the side dealers who are just as proud as how THEY get to nuke the PWA trip coverage process with their "hey I'm in the lounge now, whattaya got for me to fly as an IA?" I still put 2/3 of this entire mess on the company, Their antiquated IT, lack of robust automation and understaffed and overwhelmed (and not very knowledgeable) schedulers make what is a complex situation in a best case scenario a fiasco. They could save a lot of hassle with steps that they could take. I have little to zero sympathy for the company side. However, I actually like our PWA, and all the provisions of it--notably the correct trip coverage process. Taking steps that torpedo the detailed trip coverage process, so some super senior sorts can get numerous 23.M.7 payments, while simultaneously enabling the side-dealers, is not cool at all. "But hey, the council chair says he will have some 'uncomfortable' conversations with side dealers." So there's that. I am sure that will solve everything! The recent Quick Slip MOU will eventually solve a lot of this, I hope. I'm guessing that if it does, a lot of the Auto Accepters will be the first to complain. Rant over. Their decision in the last 6-9 months to use 23m7 well outside of the intent of the provision is why we are here. If they had invested in tech to expedite the steps of coverage, or have an adequate number of schedulers, this could’ve been avoided. We gave away batch sizes, yes. But just because they didn’t have to call 5 pilots at a time anymore didn’t mean they had to up it to 300+. This caused the auto accept rates to go up. They thought they found a loophole in 23m7. Well every action has an equal and opposite reaction. I don’t blame a single person playing the game the company created. Wish I was more senior in seat to take advantage of it. |
Originally Posted by RightSide
(Post 3973219)
How are people even getting through? I get an IA call and nobody answers. I agree with the above, no more green slips, straight to IA. I saw a 14k number on #3 today. Getting very frustrating.
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