You got proof?
You said so yourself, it’s not an IA, it’s a 23M7 call. So people on IA 2 or 3 are getting the same callout as everyone else. They are not getting removed from the ladder or out at the bottom of the list because they already had an IA.

I also experience this. Often.

I had two last month where I hit * on the phone to be connected to scheduling because hanging up and calling back was not working.

I go in the queue, wait 20 mins, find out it was assigned to someone junior or senior to me 15 mins ago. Like in one case, I got the call at say 1310 and the trip was covered at 1307.

The other two times this happened in December the trip was assigned 1-2 mins after the VRU callout. So either someone has a direct line to scheduling, or sits playing this game.

Met one dude a couple trips ago who was jump seating that said “a few times I’ve called them and told them I want ___ trip. Where is it in the trip coverage? Oh. Ok. Put me on hold and I’ll be here when it goes to IA.”

ZERO transparency from the union side of this once the company pulls the trigger on IAs too.

Needs to be addressed and needs to end.

…so they have magical powers to be first multiple times when a free for all call goes out?

Of all the few IA calls I have had none were even close to being mine. Covered at least 20 minutes earlier. One call came 1:15 AFTER the trip was covered. Several never came at all. The one I returned immediately was answered immediately and I was told it had been covered. Scheduling doesn’t even try to make it look legitimate anymore and just makes the 23M7 log and covers the trip without sending out a call.

lol. Same here man. In 2025 I was told that maybe my inbox was too full or my cell coverage was bad (Verizon).

Huh, today I learned I am a deal maker. Didn't know just calling CS back when I get an IA call counted as deal making, but you learn something new every day!

Anyone noticing the time stamps in the IA calls?

“Hello, this is delta pilot crew scheduling. It is currently 10:57 am…..”

Checks clock….. It’s 11:13 am.

My assumption is that the system can only make so many calls at a time. And by the time it gets to me, 15-20 minutes have already passed since the initial calls went out. And surprise surprise, the trips I’ve been called for are covered before I can get someone to answer the phone.

Yes. Both IAs. One had 3x calls. On drive in (I live 60-90 minutes to jfk depending on time of day) and phone rings. My ancient pre-Android Auto radio just gives number not contact name. Answer assuming its either FO or CS wanting an ETA. Its not. "What the hell are you doing. Im senior to you. I should have the trip" or similar. "Bro, I just called CS and asked for a scheduler after the IA call"

Both times it was a NYC area number so I'm guessing senior local guys. (I have a FL number but live in NJ)

That is totally unsat. I hope you told pro stands about that.

This is ***ing insane WTF

That 10:57 timestamp was when the IA list was compiled and legalities check was completed. When you receive the call is after the scheduler kicks off the IA call in CNO and it successfully makes it to a phone line to call the pilots on that IA list.