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demon llama 01-05-2026 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Meme In Command (Post 3988387)
Could be both. I've anecdotally noticed an uptick of people talking about 23M7.

😅 I had a senior captain ask me how to best craft his white slip so as to effectively farm M7. “You gotta make sure the slip would lead to a proffer, sir.”

It’s like that video of two balls in a circle that replicate every time they collide with another ball. At some point you reach critical mass. We reached that sometime around October with OOBWS and M7.

Abouttime2fish 01-05-2026 08:41 AM


Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo (Post 3988365)
This boil of an operation has been festering since 2018. This mess is resting squarely on the shoulders of 2 people. Yeah, we ran it a little hot alright. Now look at this mess you've created.

And those 2 people should be fired. Maybe Amtrack is hiring.

OpsCheckOK 01-05-2026 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3988429)
And people wonder why so many in ops loathe pilots. I wonder how many people yell at schedulers for not giving them the right trip.

That would be so unnecessary, but I’m sure it happens often. I try to be as polite as possible, even when they tell me the trip’s already gone after I’ve been on hold for 40 minutes. It’s not their fault. I honestly believe most of them are just trying their best.

iLikeMoose 01-05-2026 01:33 PM

Yeah I dont really have any beef with the individual schedulers (with the exception of a couple who choose to be deliberately unpleasant). They are almost all inexperienced, underpaid, overworked, and importantly very under-trained. My gripes are with their leadership, and Delta management as a whole who seem eternally unwilling to make modest investments in this department.

tennisguru 01-05-2026 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3988380)
This bring up a discussing an FO and I were having at cruise. Would it be considered deal making if you called scheduling and told them if they run a trip for IBWS, that you'd take it? NOT have them award it directly to you, but just run the step, seems perfectly fine, but I wouldn't be shocked to see some consider it deal making. Of course, that's assuming you could reach a scheduler. Maybe keep a teams chat open. :D

On a few occasions (not in this recent debacle) I’ve called them once they started a step in ARCOS to just bug them to keep the step running because I was willing to do the trip if it got to me. Once they were almost to me when they NOOP’d it and when I called they un-NOOP’d it and let ARCOS keep running. Once or twice someone ahead of me took the trip, which was fine, and a couple of times I ended up with it. I personally don’t see that as deal making since you are just asking them to fully run a step of coverage, and the rightful pilot would always still get the trip.

Whoopsmybad 01-06-2026 09:13 AM


Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3988429)
And people wonder why so many in ops loathe pilots. I wonder how many people yell at schedulers for not giving them the right trip.

Considering I’ve seen pilots yelling at schedulers on the phone, a lot more than people want to admit.

Apejackson 01-06-2026 10:56 AM


Originally Posted by Whoopsmybad (Post 3988740)
Considering I’ve seen pilots yelling at schedulers on the phone, a lot more than people want to admit.

These are the old pilots that are the most difficult people to work with anyways. The trips I was paired with pilots like that, I felt like I was constantly cleaning up messes their attitude had created and apologizing to everyone they interacted with. Makes for an extremely long 4-day

Xray678 01-06-2026 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 3988380)
This bring up a discussing an FO and I were having at cruise. Would it be considered deal making if you called scheduling and told them if they run a trip for IBWS, that you'd take it? NOT have them award it directly to you, but just run the step, seems perfectly fine, but I wouldn't be shocked to see some consider it deal making. Of course, that's assuming you could reach a scheduler. Maybe keep a teams chat open. :D

I would not consider that deal making. I would consider that enforcing the contract.

LumberJack 01-07-2026 10:38 AM

MOU 25-05 Update – Sick/Well Notification

On December 16, 2025, the Company notified ALPA that it wanted to begin the compliance measurement period for MiCrew Sick/Well notifications starting with the January 2026 bid period and ending at the completion of the February 2026 bid period, in accordance with MOU 25-05.

Since notification of Sick/Well via MiCrew inception, ALPA has been collecting information on Sick/Well notification failures and errors, which was the basis for ALPA’s decision to file Grievance 24-32. ALPA will continue to do so during this compliance verification period in order to report its findings and validate the Company’s assertion it is in compliance, but we need your assistance.

If ALPA receives and reports at least 10 unique and verified submissions regarding any single distinct processing failure, MiCrew Sick/Well notification will be considered non-compliant with the terms of MOU 25-05. Subsequently, a future two bid-month measurement period will be required once Delta determines it has made all necessary changes/modifications. Pilot DARTs are the ONLY MEASURMENT METRIC used to ensure the Company is compliant with the PWA and MOU 25-05.

Pilots that experience any issues or troubles with sick/well notification during this measurement period should send a DART to the MEC Contract Administration with the following information included:
  1. Type of issue (Sick or Well)
  2. Regular, Reserve, or Training
  3. Time of Occurrence (Prior to report or Mid-Trip)
  4. Rotation Info:
    • Base
    • Duty Identifier (e.g., Rotation Number, Training Event)
    • Calendar Date selected
  5. Date and Time of Swipe
  6. MiCrew Version
  7. Brief description of issue experienced
  8. Screenshots of:
    • “History” (MiCrew > Hamburger Icon (upper left corner) > History)
    • Error messages presented during the process

Casualinterest 01-07-2026 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by PositiveRate20 (Post 3988324)
Anyone noticing the time stamps in the IA calls?

“Hello, this is delta pilot crew scheduling. It is currently 10:57 am…..”

Checks clock….. It’s 11:13 am.

My assumption is that the system can only make so many calls at a time. And by the time it gets to me, 15-20 minutes have already passed since the initial calls went out. And surprise surprise, the trips I’ve been called for are covered before I can get someone to answer the phone.

this is correct. The dialer can only call so many at a time.


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