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iLikeMoose 05-02-2026 02:19 PM


Originally Posted by Casualinterest (Post 4030728)
Honestly have no idea which of the 100 threads about the 4th floor nonsense we’ve endured over the past two years to post this in, but

Jason Crude in Crew Planning has been officially forced out. They eliminated his position and basically forced him into retirement. Apparently HT’s job is secure now that they’ve got their scapegoat.

Lets focus on the important things. What is our AE memo gonna be called this month?

demon llama 05-02-2026 02:22 PM


Originally Posted by iLikeMoose (Post 4030806)
Lets focus on the important things. What is our AE memo gonna be called this month?

RIP Jason Cude Memo

20Fathoms 05-02-2026 04:08 PM


Originally Posted by iLikeMoose (Post 4030806)
Lets focus on the important things. What is our AE memo gonna be called this month?

Racketeering pref sheet.

dmhpilot 05-02-2026 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by Casualinterest (Post 4030728)
Honestly have no idea which of the 100 threads about the 4th floor nonsense we’ve endured over the past two years to post this in, but

Jason Crude in Crew Planning has been officially forced out. They eliminated his position and basically forced him into retirement. Apparently HT’s job is secure now that they’ve got their scapegoat.

Maybe that’s why there isn’t a new seniority list?

flightlessbirds 05-03-2026 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg (Post 4030099)
If there isn't [mostly] guaranteed widespread easy money to be made, most won't drop all their schedule. While there are plenty of us who do drop everything we can, during normal times, most are too scared of "coming up short."

No...this is a false narrative.

There will always be a flow of easy, broken trips for those with the desire and means to drop their schedule. This benefits RSVs (less assignment/less efficient RSV utilization), low seniority pilots (who get the pick ups of the drops of the 'credit surfers'), and the high relative seniority pilots who get the high credit/low block broken trips that are never available on PBS, regardless of seniority.

What the company wants is to be able to meter these broken trips straight to RSV assignments for free (no m7) that they view as no cost (ie against RSV guarantee...another false narrative, but I'll save that analysis for another day), forcing lineholders to fly their PBS schedules (less 'churn').

This is the big scheduling issue that we need to make sure we don't give away.

crewdawg 05-03-2026 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by flightlessbirds (Post 4030978)
No...this is a false narrative.

There will always be a flow of easy, broken trips for those with the desire and means to drop their schedule. This benefits RSVs (less assignment/less efficient RSV utilization), low seniority pilots (who get the pick ups of the drops of the 'credit surfers'), and the high relative seniority pilots who get the high credit/low block broken trips that are never available on PBS, regardless of seniority.


We might be talking past each other here. I agree with your point here as I am one of those who has dropped their schedule and credit surfed for over a decade now. But it's not a false narrative to say that there hasn't been a recent increase in this strategy in hopes of easy/free money of m7 and QS. If that gravy train goes away, I'd guess that we'll see many of the recent adopters go back to their old ways, while you and I keep with this strategy. By gravy train, I don't mean moving RSV before WS, I just mean if they take away the ability to AA or something else that will drive down all the m7 being handed out like candy.




Originally Posted by flightlessbirds (Post 4030978)
What the company wants is to be able to meter these broken trips straight to RSV assignments for free (no m7) that they view as no cost (ie against RSV guarantee...another false narrative, but I'll save that analysis for another day), forcing lineholders to fly their PBS schedules (less 'churn').

This is the big scheduling issue that we need to make sure we don't give away.


I agree with you 100% here.

Rinaldi 05-03-2026 04:22 AM


Originally Posted by flightlessbirds (Post 4030978)
No...this is a false narrative.

There will always be a flow of easy, broken trips for those with the desire and means to drop their schedule. This benefits RSVs (less assignment/less efficient RSV utilization), low seniority pilots (who get the pick ups of the drops of the 'credit surfers'), and the high relative seniority pilots who get the high credit/low block broken trips that are never available on PBS, regardless of seniority.

What the company wants is to be able to meter these broken trips straight to RSV assignments for free (no m7) that they view as no cost (ie against RSV guarantee...another false narrative, but I'll save that analysis for another day), forcing lineholders to fly their PBS schedules (less 'churn').

This is the big scheduling issue that we need to make sure we don't give away.

There no chance chance something like that passed a vote.

Further if the company didn’t build such horrible trips a lot of that churn would go away.

Trip7 05-03-2026 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by flightlessbirds (Post 4030978)
No...this is a false narrative.

There will always be a flow of easy, broken trips for those with the desire and means to drop their schedule. This benefits RSVs (less assignment/less efficient RSV utilization), low seniority pilots (who get the pick ups of the drops of the 'credit surfers'), and the high relative seniority pilots who get the high credit/low block broken trips that are never available on PBS, regardless of seniority.

What the company wants is to be able to meter these broken trips straight to RSV assignments for free (no m7) that they view as no cost (ie against RSV guarantee...another false narrative, but I'll save that analysis for another day), forcing lineholders to fly their PBS schedules (less 'churn').

This is the big scheduling issue that we need to make sure we don't give away.

It's not a false narrative. As a credit surfer I agree with Crewdawg. There is risk that credit surfers take.
  • You can get hurt or sick and get potentially get stuck with a very low pay month.
  • Credit surfing only works in a certain about of categories that have an abundance of short leg traffic flow thru the base. Credit surfing is much more difficult in NYC than ATL.
  • There isn't always a flow of easy broken up trip and I wouldn't advise credit surfing to anyone who only has set amount of days to work. There's been times when it seems like WWIII to get a WSnon a weekend. There have been times when you wake up on a clear blue day in ATL with no open time and before you even have a chance to have breakfast ARCOS rings and you are heading to DHing to Aruba for 24hrs.
As far as trip coverage changes, credit surfers don't scrutinize, we improvise. Hypothetically speaking, even if they flowed easy WS to RSV it would decimate reserve coverage and lead to an ever larger increase of QS/SS/GS. Credit surfing technique has already started shifting to SS/QS in lieu of WS/GS and that would further the migration even more.

Don't hate the player, hate the game



GutterGuard 05-03-2026 06:05 AM

What's all this about Cude being removed?

CBreezy 05-03-2026 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by GutterGuard (Post 4031031)
What's all this about Cude being removed?

I guess someone has to pay for the incompetence. It certainly wouldn't be the people who ACTUALLY are causing this.


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