Originally Posted by All 5 Stages (Post 4030076)

Yeah, I get that better staffing reduces open time. 23.M.7 farming via OOBWS hurts fellow pilots. Yes, grinding down the coverage ladder to a 12 minute crawl hurts the company, but as pointed out by others here multiple times with multiple examples, it also hurts fellow pilots

I think the quote was something to the effect that 23.M.7 farming is only beneficial to pilots. "False." -D. Schrute.

A5S

Originally Posted by icohftb (Post 4030117)

Is 20M a month really that much? What is the pilot payroll in a month? A 5% extra cost while significant is probably not as detrimental as all the unnecessary cancellations.

Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 4030121)

Exactly, which is why it's worth a 10% raise in rates across the board on it's own when combined with a better coverage solution the company wants. These are numbers for arguments sake and in no way meant to be a target or public negotiation, just my napkin math guess.

Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 4030121)

Exactly, which is why it's worth a 10% raise in rates across the board on it's own when combined with a better coverage solution the company wants. These are numbers for arguments sake and in no way meant to be a target or public negotiation, just my napkin math guess.

Originally Posted by Delta757 (Post 4030128)

Not gonna negotiate in public either but to say 10% would be WAY too low for me and everyone else I've talked to. 🗑️

Originally Posted by notEnuf (Post 4030121)

Exactly, which is why it's worth a 10% raise in rates across the board on it's own when combined with a better coverage solution the company wants. These are numbers for arguments sake and in no way meant to be a target or public negotiation, just my napkin math guess.

Originally Posted by icohftb (Post 4030117)

Is 20M a month really that much? What is the pilot payroll in a month? A 5% extra cost while significant is probably not as detrimental as all the unnecessary cancellations.

Originally Posted by Puddytatt (Post 4030150)

Where did this $20m come from? in December it was rumored to be $200m. Now it's suddenly 1/10th of that, yet there are more m7s on the reports? One, or both of those numbers, is clearly wrong. Inflated the $200m to make it seem shockingly high, then deflated the $20m to make it seem like it isn't that valuable to get ALPA to settle for less is my guess.

Originally Posted by iLikeMoose (Post 4030151)

It was confirmed a long time ago the $200m rumor wasn't even close.