Originally Posted by Picollo (Post 3994640)

I apologize if this rant has already been posted here, there's just too much to comb through. I'm noticing that QS's are probably going to have the biggest impact on pilots of my position. The Juniorish Commuter. I sit in the 70's percentile in base and commute. If I understand QS's correctly, I think they're going to have the same impact on me the way IA's currently do, just from the other direction.

Let's just use rough made up math and say in a month there's 100 trips that need to be covered by premium flying. In the past that might mean 90/100 of those trips go out as a GS and I usually end up getting my GS sometime in the back half of the month. The other 10 went out as an IA.

As it stands today that might be something more like 50/100 of those trips go out as a GS and the other 50 go out as an IA. Now obviously as a commuter that's 50 IA trips I'm unable to pick up because I wouldn't make it in time. The result of that being 50 or so less trips that filled up GS's senior to me. AKA I don't end up seeing any green slips at the back half of the month anymore.

What I'm seeing with QS's is a plug and play of the IA just from the other direction if I understand them correctly. Now 50 seniors get their GS but they will also get their crack at 50 QS's, thus GS's still not reaching me the way they used to. And yes of course there's seniors to me that are also commuters, this is just rough math. There's always going to be less GS's in the pot whether IA or QS and the Junior Commuter feels that the most.

Anyway, thats my TED talk and I'd love to be visualizing this wrong so please chime in. And obligatory yes I've tried being more senior while also understanding commuting is a choice :)

Originally Posted by TheMountie (Post 3994653)

I’ve argued this exact point in this thread and I think you are right. I’m guessing it will affect commuters and non-commuters, but obviously in different ways. The contract has fundamentally changed and will have a large impact on everyone’s W2, yet never went to MEMRAT. Both the change and the execution were huge mistakes imo. Solution? Just uproot your family and get senior, like yesterday.

Originally Posted by 172skychicken (Post 3994702)

It really depends on your base. In ATL, far more IAs go out than GS which QS will at least restore some order to. In some of the smallest bases, hardly any IAs go out. So almost no change there. It's not a perfect solution but it should at least put an end to the worst of the deal making/shenanigans for the time being. As well as an end to the random phone blasts in the middle of the night whether you want an IA/QS or not.

QS may not be a long term solution anyway depending on what happens in section 6 coming up. The company will almost certainly come hard to change the current trip coverage process, so that will be something to watch. At the very least, it is well within the realm of possibility that at least 2 of QS, GS, and SLV end up on the same counter. The survey made it clear that it's under consideration. I don't think anyone's realistic intention was to give senior (REGULAR) pilots 3+ bites at the premium apple before other pilots when it was basically 1 bite 5 years ago. At least not outside the fringes.

Originally Posted by Picollo (Post 3994640)

Anyway, thats my TED talk and I'd love to be visualizing this wrong so please chime in. And obligatory yes I've tried being more senior while also understanding commuting is a choice :)

Originally Posted by Picollo (Post 3994640)

I apologize if this rant has already been posted here, there's just too much to comb through. I'm noticing that QS's are probably going to have the biggest impact on pilots of my position. The Juniorish Commuter. I sit in the 70's percentile in base and commute. If I understand QS's correctly, I think they're going to have the same impact on me the way IA's currently do, just from the other direction.

Let's just use rough made up math and say in a month there's 100 trips that need to be covered by premium flying. In the past that might mean 90/100 of those trips go out as a GS and I usually end up getting my GS sometime in the back half of the month. The other 10 went out as an IA.

As it stands today that might be something more like 50/100 of those trips go out as a GS and the other 50 go out as an IA. Now obviously as a commuter that's 50 IA trips I'm unable to pick up because I wouldn't make it in time. The result of that being 50 or so less trips that filled up GS's senior to me. AKA I don't end up seeing any green slips at the back half of the month anymore.

What I'm seeing with QS's is a plug and play of the IA just from the other direction if I understand them correctly. Now 50 seniors get their GS but they will also get their crack at 50 QS's, thus GS's still not reaching me the way they used to. And yes of course there's seniors to me that are also commuters, this is just rough math. There's always going to be less GS's in the pot whether IA or QS and the Junior Commuter feels that the most.

Anyway, thats my TED talk and I'd love to be visualizing this wrong so please chime in. And obligatory yes I've tried being more senior while also understanding commuting is a choice :)

Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 3994708)

I agree that the QS/GS at a minimum should be combined..should be an easy fix with little to no capital used

Originally Posted by Picollo (Post 3994640)

I apologize if this rant has already been posted here, there's just too much to comb through. I'm noticing that QS's are probably going to have the biggest impact on pilots of my position. The Juniorish Commuter. I sit in the 70's percentile in base and commute. If I understand QS's correctly, I think they're going to have the same impact on me the way IA's currently do, just from the other direction.

Let's just use rough made up math and say in a month there's 100 trips that need to be covered by premium flying. In the past that might mean 90/100 of those trips go out as a GS and I usually end up getting my GS sometime in the back half of the month. The other 10 went out as an IA.

As it stands today that might be something more like 50/100 of those trips go out as a GS and the other 50 go out as an IA. Now obviously as a commuter that's 50 IA trips I'm unable to pick up because I wouldn't make it in time. The result of that being 50 or so less trips that filled up GS's senior to me. AKA I don't end up seeing any green slips at the back half of the month anymore.

What I'm seeing with QS's is a plug and play of the IA just from the other direction if I understand them correctly. Now 50 seniors get their GS but they will also get their crack at 50 QS's, thus GS's still not reaching me the way they used to. And yes of course there's seniors to me that are also commuters, this is just rough math. There's always going to be less GS's in the pot whether IA or QS and the Junior Commuter feels that the most.

Anyway, thats my TED talk and I'd love to be visualizing this wrong so please chime in. And obligatory yes I've tried being more senior while also understanding commuting is a choice :)

Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 4004820)

There are a few folks who will need to eat some Crow on here.

QS go live 2 March at 0001. They may be input starting on 25 Feb.

Company email in your inbox.

Originally Posted by FangsF15 (Post 4004820)

There are a few folks who will need to eat some Crow on here.

QS go live 2 March at 0001. They may be input starting on 25 Feb.

Company email in your inbox.