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Thruster 02-19-2026 12:28 PM


Originally Posted by Gunfighter (Post 4005063)
Palms are sweaty, knees weak, arms are heavy,.
There's a slip in iCrew, loaded and ready.
Nervous, but on the surface, looks calm and ready
To drop trips, but keeps on forgetting
The days are black, the whole category is under attack.
He clicked submit but the trip's not his.

Crew Meal Selection:

Beef
Chicken
Mom’s Spaghetti✅

marcal 02-19-2026 12:53 PM

The only thing this accomplishes is seniority based, short notice IAs.

Thats it. Better than nothing I guess, but merely treating the symptom not the disease.

WS, OOBWS, and GSs are still going to be as gummed up as previously.

If you complain about being called for anything in the middle of the night, or complain about batch sizes then QS is clearly not for you, but I’m betting all you that complain about those items put in for them.

Down with AA. Make the QS concept the same for all slips and that treats the disease.

QS is exactly what I recommend but only for IAs. It’s a step in the right direction but is completely unnecessary if my suggestion is implemented.

No AA, no batches. Restore order. This simply restores order to the close in IA process.

tripled 02-19-2026 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by marcal (Post 4005070)
The only thing this accomplishes is seniority based, short notice IAs.

Thats it. Better than nothing I guess, but merely treating the symptom not the disease.

WS, OOBWS, and GSs are still going to be as gummed up as previously.

All you clowns* complaining about being called all night and batch sizes this and that obviously won’t be putting in for QS, right??

Bc the most important thing is not being called if you won’t get the trip and god help it if you are called at 3am for a trip that isn’t yours!

Maybe….maybe you jokers* WILL put in for QS and - drum roll - put your phones on DND if you don’t want to be bothered.

If you complain about being called for anything in the middle of the night, or complain about batch sizes then QS is clearly not for you, but I’m betting all you clowns* put in for them.

Down with AA. Make the QS concept the same for all slips and that treats the disease.

*clowns/jokers being anyone that has disagreed with me by claiming batch sizes and not being disturbed as their basis for not getting rid of AA across the board.

QS is exactly what I recommend but only for IAs. Call everyone, no AA.

are you jr by chance? This rage doesn’t make sense

texas1970 02-19-2026 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by marcal (Post 4005070)
The only thing this accomplishes is seniority based, short notice IAs.

Thats it. Better than nothing I guess, but merely treating the symptom not the disease.

WS, OOBWS, and GSs are still going to be as gummed up as previously.

All you clowns complaining about being called all night and batch sizes this and that obviously won’t be putting in for QS, right??

Bc the most important thing is not being called if you won’t get the trip and god help it if you are called at 3am for a trip that isn’t yours!

Maybe….maybe you jokers WILL put in for QS and - drum roll - put your phones on DND if you don’t want to be bothered.

If you complain about being called for anything in the middle of the night, or complain about batch sizes then QS is clearly not for you, but I’m betting all you clowns put in for them.

Down with AA. Make the QS concept the same for all slips and that treats the disease.

if we got rid of AA then there would be no need for quick slips. All quick slips do is force the company to pay 3x instead of 2x for the inconvenience of waking the entire category up at 3am. And I think they should have to do that! If they don’t want to pay 3x, they can staff the airline with sufficient reserves, and nobody will need to be woken up because there will be way fewer green slips and more short calls.

As we approach section 6, I would kindly remind everyone that giving away the pilot group’s money - even if it mostly belongs to the senior few - for free is a generally poor strategy.

StoneQOLdCrazy 02-19-2026 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by All 5 Stages (Post 4005003)
I don't see how QS is a disincentive for the farmers to stop intentionally slowing trip coverage.

A5S

It's not. Farmers will farm. That's our leverage in contract negotiations.

StoneQOLdCrazy 02-19-2026 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by marcal (Post 4005070)

Down with AA. Make the QS concept the same for all slips and that treats the disease.

I bet mgmt would jump on that immediately. Bro, please stop. You're carrying the company's water

marcal 02-19-2026 01:08 PM


Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy (Post 4005078)
I bet mgmt would jump on that immediately. Bro, please stop. You're carrying the company's water

The destruction of trip coverage over the last few months has me personally on target to gross roughly 20% less than last year. I’m carrying my own water.

As I have stated in other posts, the exponential increase in AA is the most self harming contractual item I’ve ever seen used at scale. It takes from the middle and gives to the senior and junior.

And we are being asked to use it as leverage for PWA negotiations and not to make deals.

StoneQOLdCrazy 02-19-2026 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by marcal (Post 4005080)
The destruction of trip coverage over the last few months has me personally on target to gross roughly 20% less than last year. I’m carrying my own water.

I'm sorry for your loss.

Thanks for admitting it's all about you.

But that's not how we get the best possible contract. If everyone looked out for their own personal interests, mgmt would crush us during negotiations.

Is this your first airline contract negotiating cycle? It sure sounds like it.

marcal 02-19-2026 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by StoneQOLdCrazy (Post 4005081)
I'm sorry for your loss.

Thanks for admitting it's all about you.

But that's not how we get the best possible contract.

GMAB. Let’s step on our own members necks to extract leverage? Nothing - nothing we’ve used as leverage before has harmed our own group like this.

How about pickets, or a strike? I’ll be there. Why? BC it’s everyone together. This is not.

Verdell 02-19-2026 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by marcal (Post 4005080)
The destruction of trip coverage over the last few months has me personally on target to gross roughly 20% less than last year. I’m carrying my own water.

As I have stated in other posts, the exponential increase in AA is the most self harming contractual item I’ve ever seen used at scale. It takes from the middle and gives to the senior and junior.

And we are being asked to use it as leverage for PWA negotiations and not to make deals.

Eh, in a couple weeks it'll take from the middle and junior and give it to senior (with a leveling mechanism.) As it should be.


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