It’s about the majority of our pilot group. Lots of us have taken a six figure paycut over this issue. Yes, it’s about us. Anyone that takes that kind of loss is going to be upset. Why? So some pilots can get paid to do nothing, others can claim they are winning because the company has to call each pilot 12 minutes at a time, and so some extremely junior pilots can get trips at double pay that historically they never would have gotten.

My guess is the coverage ladder just disappears and quick slip becomes the new normal until we get a contract that eliminates AA and OOBWS. I’m fine with that. At least progress is being made.

100k is 255 hours of pay at 9 year 7ERA pay.

That's a lot of premium. Are there individuals "losing" that much? I'm sure there's a couple. It ain't a majority of us.

But the leverage ww have via 23M7 costs we need to use.

They want to be rid of AA? That's probably worth $XX per hour across the board. Or some other quid.

I do not understand those who want to give up leverage. For nothin.

-lazy RES guy who gets 1150+ hours of pay off under 300 block.

WSs as well as GSs

Awesome explanation and yeah, different than I thought it was. Thanks.

This will be good. No more junior pilots complaining that a senior pilot stole his/her IA.

max 737 captain or 320 captain pay plus ps plus 18 percent is almost 500 per hour. That’s 200 hours. I’ve been losing at least 21 hours per month which equates to 252 hours per year. It’s actually probably more than $100k. I was rounding down.

please destroy this mindset that you’re going to trade any part of the coverage ladder for a pay rate or dollar increase

thats foolishness and you’ll lose the value of any perceived increase within one or two contract cycles

I'm just saying these guys who want to nuke AA for no gain.

Positive space commuting? Maybe ground commuter protection? GFBs gone? Theres more than just money but everything will get monetized in section 6. Perhaps paid APD? Who knows.

Company wants AA gone. I want something for it. A lot of something for it.

Is "non crap tier health insurance with the company 100% out if the loop other than paying the premiums" a dream too far?

I do not want to give it up for nothing like some of these guys.

Probably won't happen but I also would like AA or UA to get to an acceptable payrate TA so we can concen more on non pay items as if they get a ratified contract, that effectively sets the floor, so we can concentrate in other areas.

But, odds are DALPA is going to have to do the heavy lifting on pay again.

I agree it has value and needs to be “exchanged” for equivalent value… but just don’t want it to be all put into payrates.

we need more of the soft items, like healthcare and vacation, that you mentioned

this has been going on for over a year? interesting.