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Originally Posted by igotgummed
(Post 3981456)
I’m aware of what ladder was mentioned. And it doesn’t change my comment. Close in OOBWS are many times even more beneficial for commuters.
Gotcha, your post said, "a pilot shouldn't have an opportunity...," but with this change they'd still have an opportunity, just not short notice. Either way, the current situation isn't helping the case of keeping it, because that step is mostly what's causing people to miss out on premium flying. I'll use OOBWS to my advantage as well, but I think 23.O vs 23.N changes would be a welcome change for most. |
Originally Posted by igotgummed
(Post 3981450)
So a current and qualified pilot shouldn’t have an opportunity to fly a single pay trip out of any base that that pilots plane flies? At an airline with over 50% commuters? Gtfoh.
OOBWS has always been controversial, and now even more so with farming. So removing it from 23.O woukd be satisfactory to me, and a lot of other pilots I'm sure. I'd also be okay with OOBWS going behind in base Green Slip (yes, this would move some people's cheese). A5S Edited |
Originally Posted by All 5 Stages
(Post 3981463)
That's not what I wrote. See crewdogs comment.
OOBWS has always been controversial, and now even more so with farming. So removing it from 23.O woukd be satisfactory to me, and a lot of other pilots I'm sure. I'd also be okay with OOBWS going behind in base Green Slip (yes, this would move some people's cheese). A5S Edited I don't understand how we tell pilots not to bid specific equipment because it has a specific layover/route but then we're also weirdly tribal about a base's flying. |
Originally Posted by Meme In Command
(Post 3981474)
This is the only place I've flown at that has this "my base owns this flying!" Mentality.
I don't understand how we tell pilots not to bid specific equipment because it has a specific layover/route but then we're also weirdly tribal about a base's flying. Yet so many pilots get defensive over “their base’s flying”, despite the company’s constant reminders that it truly doesn’t belong to their base. On top of that, we have an enormous number of commuters who don’t live in ANY base. |
Originally Posted by igotgummed
(Post 3981450)
So a current and qualified pilot shouldn’t have an opportunity to fly a single pay trip out of any base that that pilots plane flies? At an airline with over 50% commuters? Gtfoh.
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Originally Posted by Meme In Command
(Post 3981474)
This is the only place I've flown at that has this "my base owns this flying!" Mentality.
I don't understand how we tell pilots not to bid specific equipment because it has a specific layover/route but then we're also weirdly tribal about a base's flying. It has nothing to do with X base getting X layovers. OOB flying doesn't help the staffing formula, but reserves and premium flying does, not to mention more premium puts more money into pilot pockets. So the pilot flying OOB trips while trying to get to a base, are working against themselves. Most pilots came from the regionals who allowed so much OOB flying because it was probably a great way to keep the pilot count down. |
Originally Posted by Xray678
(Post 3981493)
yes they should. But after in base GS.
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Originally Posted by Frank Grimes
(Post 3981521)
It would be below SC reserve then. No way.
That's not exactly doing a big favor for reserve pilots. |
Originally Posted by SideStickMonkey
(Post 3981524)
I see maybe on O code a week on my fleet.
That's not exactly doing a big favor for reserve pilots. |
Originally Posted by Frank Grimes
(Post 3981525)
I see it a lot more.
10 char.. |
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