MOU 25-05
#261
Can’t find crew pickup
Joined: Jun 2021
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Oh please. I’ve read more than a few posts from different users now accusing “Jr” of making side deals. As if “Sr” isn’t out there doing the exact same thing. I’ve seen many an IA go out to senior. Let’s not pretend there’s just one demographic willing to totally ignore the contract and make a deal.
#262
Agree 100%.
That was the goal. We didn’t have inverse assignments. We had skip the GS process, violate seniority, robocall everyone, and award trip to first person to call back. This resulted in junior pilots getting trips they shouldn’t have gotten. I laughed a couple times when I read some junior pilots complaining that a senior pilot took their IA and violated seniority.
We accepted these robo-calls years ago as precedent because back then , they actually completed the GS process before proceeding to them. The first come, first serve wasn’t a huge deal because the category already rejected trip as a GS for one reason or another.
We accepted these robo-calls years ago as precedent because back then , they actually completed the GS process before proceeding to them. The first come, first serve wasn’t a huge deal because the category already rejected trip as a GS for one reason or another.
Restoring seniority to the free-for-all is a win.
As is the permanent QHCP certification, and a complete lack of a verification window for at least three or four more months, and backdated to June/July. That alone is going to almost wipe out all current verification requirements. We also are going to have an audited 23M7 trail going back two full years. I don’t think the company would have agreed to that had we not had them over a barrel. I feel fairly confident we had to have copies of audio tapes of crew schedulers openly and willfully violating the contract. And when we are grieving a lack of good faith resolution to a prior grievance, that kind of thing does not play well with the system board. At all. In other words, the company got caught with their hand in the cookie jar, and we got some solid gains as a result.
#263
Line Holder
Joined: Feb 2020
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A5S
Edit: I don't remember his seniority number, but he was NOT junior.
#264
Apart from the “re-establishing order of seniority for call-outs”
what gains do you see?
And id argue all we did was bring them into compliance for a violation they were committing.
Was there harm to us? Sure. But they were acting illegally as far as the contract was concerned
we should have brought them to a grievance for violating the contract.
Then we give them a settlement on the already settled grievance? C’mon we are just adding insult to injury
the Company is beating us over the head over and over and just providing a band-aid and a hollow apology before they start beating again next week
qhcp is not a win; this is something we already had a settlement for
and you who think CS going to magically comply with the contract now are out of your mind - what’s a SIL? It’s not a violation til an arbitrator says so, etc etc
stop being so afraid and let’s tell ALPA to grow a set and let’s fight back
#265
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Joined: Jul 2013
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Oh please. I’ve read more than a few posts from different users now accusing “Jr” of making side deals. As if “Sr” isn’t out there doing the exact same thing. I’ve seen many an IA go out to senior. Let’s not pretend there’s just one demographic willing to totally ignore the contract and make a deal.
Apart from the “re-establishing order of seniority for call-outs”
what gains do you see?
And id argue all we did was bring them into compliance for a violation they were committing.
Was there harm to us? Sure. But they were acting illegally as far as the contract was concerned
we should have brought them to a grievance for violating the contract.
Then we give them a settlement on the already settled grievance? C’mon we are just adding insult to injury
the Company is beating us over the head over and over and just providing a band-aid and a hollow apology before they start beating again next week
qhcp is not a win; this is something we already had a settlement for
and you who think CS going to magically comply with the contract now are out of your mind - what’s a SIL? It’s not a violation til an arbitrator says so, etc etc
stop being so afraid and let’s tell ALPA to grow a set and let’s fight back
what gains do you see?
And id argue all we did was bring them into compliance for a violation they were committing.
Was there harm to us? Sure. But they were acting illegally as far as the contract was concerned
we should have brought them to a grievance for violating the contract.
Then we give them a settlement on the already settled grievance? C’mon we are just adding insult to injury
the Company is beating us over the head over and over and just providing a band-aid and a hollow apology before they start beating again next week
qhcp is not a win; this is something we already had a settlement for
and you who think CS going to magically comply with the contract now are out of your mind - what’s a SIL? It’s not a violation til an arbitrator says so, etc etc
stop being so afraid and let’s tell ALPA to grow a set and let’s fight back
In the vast majority of cases, there were no violations. Under emergency coverage, they can pretty much do whatever they want. The example I was given, if a pilot calls out sick in Maui, they can call every qualified pilot in Maui to operate it back as long as the proper pilot was paid.
#266
I really don’t GAS as I don’t GS, IA and hardly ever WS. It’s easy enough to block their calls when I’m home. I just find it humorous that once again it’s up to Delta IT to determine when our contract will be enforceable.
#268
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#269
What a joke! A provision to prevent abuse of the contract will be abused. Can we grieve a grievance? Double secret grievance?
I really don’t GAS as I don’t GS, IA and hardly ever WS. It’s easy enough to block their calls when I’m home. I just find it humorous that once again it’s up to Delta IT to determine when our contract will be enforceable.
I really don’t GAS as I don’t GS, IA and hardly ever WS. It’s easy enough to block their calls when I’m home. I just find it humorous that once again it’s up to Delta IT to determine when our contract will be enforceable.
#270
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Joined: Sep 2016
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what about this mou makes that more likely or useful as an impasse tool than the pre-qs system?
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