Prepare Yourselves... 2026 AEs
02-15-2026 | 10:52 AM
#541
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In some ways it’s linear, in other ways it’s exponential. Either way, the industry adage “seniority is everything” is unlikely to ever change.
Should senior pilots only be allowed to hold one “Gucci” trip every month, after which their next PBS-awarded trip must be a 5-day full of Florida turns in order to give a captain with 3 years on property the next Gucci trip?
Should senior pilots only be allowed to hold one “Gucci” trip every month, after which their next PBS-awarded trip must be a 5-day full of Florida turns in order to give a captain with 3 years on property the next Gucci trip?
02-15-2026 | 10:56 AM
#542
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As in Senior can grab all the SS in one PCS run and no one else get any like now? Hard pass.
Leveling and/or counters need to happen. Senior can get first pick, then number 2 can have his first pick, and so forth, before senior gets his second bite at the apple. They are already going to have a massive advantage by being able to drop trips and have room for them where Junior is stuck without the ability to drop trips and have room. There, seniority honored.
Leveling and/or counters need to happen. Senior can get first pick, then number 2 can have his first pick, and so forth, before senior gets his second bite at the apple. They are already going to have a massive advantage by being able to drop trips and have room for them where Junior is stuck without the ability to drop trips and have room. There, seniority honored.
02-15-2026 | 10:58 AM
#543
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Straight pay in that example, as I was talking about PBS awards (non-PBSPR).
It’s merely one example of how absurd it would be to make every aspect of seniority linear. It already is linear in some areas, but not others. Our contract is fairer than most at spreading the wealth across the list.
It’s merely one example of how absurd it would be to make every aspect of seniority linear. It already is linear in some areas, but not others. Our contract is fairer than most at spreading the wealth across the list.
02-15-2026 | 11:46 AM
#544
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Straight pay in that example, as I was talking about PBS awards (non-PBSPR).
It’s merely one example of how absurd it would be to make every aspect of seniority linear. It already is linear in some areas, but not others. Our contract is fairer than most at spreading the wealth across the list.
It’s merely one example of how absurd it would be to make every aspect of seniority linear. It already is linear in some areas, but not others. Our contract is fairer than most at spreading the wealth across the list.
02-15-2026 | 12:21 PM
#545
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I pointed out that there are still plenty advantages even with a counter.
02-15-2026 | 12:22 PM
#546
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In some ways it’s linear, in other ways it’s exponential. Either way, the industry adage “seniority is everything” is unlikely to ever change.
Should senior pilots only be allowed to hold one “Gucci” trip every month, after which their next PBS-awarded trip must be a 5-day full of Florida turns in order to give a captain with 3 years on property the next Gucci trip?
Should senior pilots only be allowed to hold one “Gucci” trip every month, after which their next PBS-awarded trip must be a 5-day full of Florida turns in order to give a captain with 3 years on property the next Gucci trip?
Besides, one pilots trash is another’s treasure. Who defines “Gucci”? Because there are trips out there that people clamor about I avoid like the plague.
02-15-2026 | 02:58 PM
#547
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In some ways it’s linear, in other ways it’s exponential. Either way, the industry adage “seniority is everything” is unlikely to ever change.
Should senior pilots only be allowed to hold one “Gucci” trip every month, after which their next PBS-awarded trip must be a 5-day full of Florida turns in order to give a captain with 3 years on property the next Gucci trip?
Should senior pilots only be allowed to hold one “Gucci” trip every month, after which their next PBS-awarded trip must be a 5-day full of Florida turns in order to give a captain with 3 years on property the next Gucci trip?
Wanting senior to exercise their seniority without exploiting loopholes that negatively affect the rest of the seniority list is not watering down or abrogation of seniority. Bidding all "Gucci" trips on your line is within the intent of our PWA. Farming M7, is not. Not by the company or the pilot group as a whole.
02-15-2026 | 03:39 PM
#548
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I think intent is very important. When I mentioned leveled drops, the intent was eliminating the incentive for M7 farming. I'm not married to the idea, I really don't care. I didn't even use my APD in 2025. We can level SS, we can treat OOBWS as a QS with a single acceptance window... We can skin this cat multiple ways.
Wanting senior to exercise their seniority without exploiting loopholes that negatively affect the rest of the seniority list is not watering down or abrogation of seniority. Bidding all "Gucci" trips on your line is within the intent of our PWA. Farming M7, is not. Not by the company or the pilot group as a whole.
Wanting senior to exercise their seniority without exploiting loopholes that negatively affect the rest of the seniority list is not watering down or abrogation of seniority. Bidding all "Gucci" trips on your line is within the intent of our PWA. Farming M7, is not. Not by the company or the pilot group as a whole.
In the meantime, “senior” extracting additional value from the contract is not a disservice to the rest of the seniority list, especially when that value will be spread throughout. “Additional value from AA/M7 is not an intended part of the contract” is management speak. Calm down, wait for that value to be cashed in, and quit the jealousy toward other pilots who have found a great deal in the short term.
02-15-2026 | 03:53 PM
#549
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Gucci trips don’t exist in every category. However, there are some categories in which certain trips are always gone within the first page or two of PBS wide reports, with plenty of junior pilots underneath desiring the same trips. In that case, senior pilots are “taking the whole pie”, which Meme suggested is wrong.
If the argument truly is limited to M7 farming and nothing more, then that value will be extracted and moved to other areas of the next contract anyway. Fundamental change to seniority handling isn’t an essential part of that.
02-15-2026 | 04:07 PM
#550
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