Prepare Yourselves... 2026 AEs
04-23-2026 | 03:54 AM
#851
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they could return, but if it costs the company more than converting them to supp vac days I don’t see an incentive for them to do so.
You also have to remember this doesn’t matter to the majority of the pilot group. A few at the top had a great deal (same as 23m7 farmers) while the rest of the list (that did the contract survey and vote) are not really affected by it.
I can be empathetic to the position as I have been told it’s worth 6 figures to the PB day washers- but it does nothing for most and I would not encourage the team negotiating to waste effort on something that doesn’t benefit the entire pilot group
You also have to remember this doesn’t matter to the majority of the pilot group. A few at the top had a great deal (same as 23m7 farmers) while the rest of the list (that did the contract survey and vote) are not really affected by it.
I can be empathetic to the position as I have been told it’s worth 6 figures to the PB day washers- but it does nothing for most and I would not encourage the team negotiating to waste effort on something that doesn’t benefit the entire pilot group
pilots at 85% seniority in base were using PB days. It was not just reserved for the top of the list.
04-23-2026 | 04:11 AM
#852
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they could return, but if it costs the company more than converting them to supp vac days I don’t see an incentive for them to do so.
You also have to remember this doesn’t matter to the majority of the pilot group. A few at the top had a great deal (same as 23m7 farmers) while the rest of the list (that did the contract survey and vote) are not really affected by it.
I can be empathetic to the position as I have been told it’s worth 6 figures to the PB day washers- but it does nothing for most and I would not encourage the team negotiating to waste effort on something that doesn’t benefit the entire pilot group
You also have to remember this doesn’t matter to the majority of the pilot group. A few at the top had a great deal (same as 23m7 farmers) while the rest of the list (that did the contract survey and vote) are not really affected by it.
I can be empathetic to the position as I have been told it’s worth 6 figures to the PB day washers- but it does nothing for most and I would not encourage the team negotiating to waste effort on something that doesn’t benefit the entire pilot group
04-23-2026 | 04:14 AM
#853
Bent over by buybacks
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04-23-2026 | 04:14 AM
#854
Can’t find crew pickup
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Honest question: do we really expect the companies current take on PB days to be the new norm? After negotiations conclude, and the current clowns making these absurd contract interpretations are out, what’s to say they don’t reinstate past precedent of PB day usage? I could see this happening by changing PWA language in c26 or reinterpretation of “mutual consent” via new management. Is the normal PB standard something senior B’s are really willing to give up on (in the chance the standard use of PB days we’re used to returns) and bail to NB A positions? Curios to hear everyone’s thoughts.
I’m not sure how exactly that will play out, and maybe we go back to dropping a 3 day requires 3 PB days (if you have 3) like it used to be, but I seriously doubt it’ll go back to using 1 to drop a whole trip.
04-23-2026 | 04:16 AM
#855
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Just like in many situations, a select few individuals have ruined it for everyone. However, this doesn't alter how they interpret the contract. In my opinion, the real issue is that we, as pilots, are powerless while the company accumulates millions in grievances that will dissapear if a new PWA is signed.
04-23-2026 | 04:25 AM
#856
Can’t find crew pickup
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Just like in many situations, a select few individuals have ruined it for everyone. However, this doesn't alter how they interpret the contract. In my opinion, the real issue is that we, as pilots, are powerless while the company accumulates millions in grievances that will dissapear if a new PWA is signed.
And I’m not talking about deal makers. That’s a separate issue that was hopefully killed with QS.
04-23-2026 | 04:33 AM
#857
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Just like in many situations, a select few individuals have ruined it for everyone. However, this doesn't alter how they interpret the contract. In my opinion, the real issue is that we, as pilots, are powerless while the company accumulates millions in grievances that will dissapear if a new PWA is signed.
04-23-2026 | 04:35 AM
#858
Gets Weekends Off
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04-23-2026 | 04:41 AM
#859
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we just live in different worlds. The most I could ever get out of a PB day was a future day off of reserve. It’s not due to not bidding correctly or not putting slips in. It’s just how seniority works and plays out…..
So excuse me for not being senior enough……but with 20+ years and 4-6 more PWAs to go before washing 30 pb days worth 14 hours each is my reality….. I will just be out of touch.
So excuse me for not being senior enough……but with 20+ years and 4-6 more PWAs to go before washing 30 pb days worth 14 hours each is my reality….. I will just be out of touch.
04-23-2026 | 04:45 AM
#860
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I think the impression is that there were a few select that were highlighting the true cost of the PB days being washed. Those are the ones that would cache as many PB days as they could and wash them all in a single sitting. It’s gonna draw a lot of attention when somebody washes their 30 PB days and increases their average monthly pay by 300 hours (or more for WB).
I’m not saying there’s a good or bad way to wash PB days. In my eyes it would be great to wash them immediately upon banking them but that requires bidding back to a line and losing the opportunity to stack more days in the bank. So I get the cash them all in at once mentality.
I see the PB days as a huge amount of money lost even though I never banked any. I have been unable to hold a line given my juniority so I would avoid banking them since the time off in the current month was more valuable to me.
I’m not saying there’s a good or bad way to wash PB days. In my eyes it would be great to wash them immediately upon banking them but that requires bidding back to a line and losing the opportunity to stack more days in the bank. So I get the cash them all in at once mentality.
I see the PB days as a huge amount of money lost even though I never banked any. I have been unable to hold a line given my juniority so I would avoid banking them since the time off in the current month was more valuable to me.
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