Another look at the look back.
#1
As I understand things the 120 hour sick look back was suspended beginning July of last year. The look back will supposedly resume once the conditions that caused it are resolved.
Question. What’s to stop the company from looking back all the way to July 2025? Was there something in the arbitrator’s ruling that would prevent this? Will this be another case of the companies “interpretation”?
Question. What’s to stop the company from looking back all the way to July 2025? Was there something in the arbitrator’s ruling that would prevent this? Will this be another case of the companies “interpretation”?
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From: Pilot
There is a plan and it’s been stated since the beginning. Rather than trying to clear everything out month-to-month, especially if click to sick keeps getting dragged out, the company plans to wait until verification is ready to begin again, then they will go in once and wipe everything out back to the appropriate date.
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As I understand things the 120 hour sick look back was suspended beginning July of last year. The look back will supposedly resume once the conditions that caused it are resolved.
Question. What’s to stop the company from looking back all the way to July 2025? Was there something in the arbitrator’s ruling that would prevent this? Will this be another case of the companies “interpretation”?
Question. What’s to stop the company from looking back all the way to July 2025? Was there something in the arbitrator’s ruling that would prevent this? Will this be another case of the companies “interpretation”?
That being said, the company is always able to disregard any part of the PWA until an arbitrator tells them otherwise. And really, they can ignore an arbitrator too until a judge tells them otherwise - though that likely ends pretty badly for them, so they probably wouldn’t. Thats just how the RLA works.
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There is a plan and it’s been stated since the beginning. Rather than trying to clear everything out month-to-month, especially if click to sick keeps getting dragged out, the company plans to wait until verification is ready to begin again, then they will go in once and wipe everything out back to the appropriate date.
#7
Regarding the lookback suspension, does this mean that any hours used during this period will not accumulate towards the "50 hour provisions?"
Specifically, if using less than 50 hours in a year, you cant get a GFB call the following year. If using less than 50 hours in two consecutive years, you also cant be required to do any 120-hour verification the following year.
Does MOU 25-05 basically make it much easier to have "under" 50 hours for these purposes?
Specifically, if using less than 50 hours in a year, you cant get a GFB call the following year. If using less than 50 hours in two consecutive years, you also cant be required to do any 120-hour verification the following year.
Does MOU 25-05 basically make it much easier to have "under" 50 hours for these purposes?
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from MOU 25-05 directly:
Any sick leave hours used between July 1, 2025 and the start of the first full bid period following the completion date, will not count towards, or be considered for purposes of,
sick leave verification lookback under Section 14 F.
Example: Assuming the completion date is August 1, 2026, any sick leave hours used between July 1, 2025 and August 30, 2026 will not count towards sick leave lookback
upon the resumption of sick leave verification on August 31, 2026 (the start of the September bid period).
The language is pretty good here. I also don't think they want to tick us off even more as negotiations start.
Any sick leave hours used between July 1, 2025 and the start of the first full bid period following the completion date, will not count towards, or be considered for purposes of,
sick leave verification lookback under Section 14 F.
Example: Assuming the completion date is August 1, 2026, any sick leave hours used between July 1, 2025 and August 30, 2026 will not count towards sick leave lookback
upon the resumption of sick leave verification on August 31, 2026 (the start of the September bid period).
The language is pretty good here. I also don't think they want to tick us off even more as negotiations start.
#9
Even they know how to pick their battles…
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Roll’n Thunder
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From: Pilot
Regarding the lookback suspension, does this mean that any hours used during this period will not accumulate towards the "50 hour provisions?"
Specifically, if using less than 50 hours in a year, you cant get a GFB call the following year. If using less than 50 hours in two consecutive years, you also cant be required to do any 120-hour verification the following year.
Does MOU 25-05 basically make it much easier to have "under" 50 hours for these purposes?
Specifically, if using less than 50 hours in a year, you cant get a GFB call the following year. If using less than 50 hours in two consecutive years, you also cant be required to do any 120-hour verification the following year.
Does MOU 25-05 basically make it much easier to have "under" 50 hours for these purposes?
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