Openers today?
05-09-2026 | 07:13 PM
#1141
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All contractual desires that this pilot group has for the next 5 years need to be addressed at the time auto-accept is traded away. Pivoting to a comprehensive focus is the best move we can possibly make. IMHO, that’s where we’ll be headed within the next couple weeks.
05-09-2026 | 07:21 PM
#1142
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Yeah, “saving the summer operation” is a charade. It was always about cost for them.
If they cared about the operation, they would rebuild crew scheduling, invest in IT, and immediately utilize QS or SC+M7 for every open trip right at 8 hours prior. They don’t need any contractual changes to do that.
If they cared about the operation, they would rebuild crew scheduling, invest in IT, and immediately utilize QS or SC+M7 for every open trip right at 8 hours prior. They don’t need any contractual changes to do that.
05-09-2026 | 07:33 PM
#1143
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That is precisely what I mean.
Our new CIO is about to do a rather extensive demolition job in that department. We’ll simply need to replace her with someone who can actually build it up again, the right way.
Our new CIO is about to do a rather extensive demolition job in that department. We’ll simply need to replace her with someone who can actually build it up again, the right way.
05-10-2026 | 02:47 AM
#1146
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Double pay or pay above guarantee/pb days, our premium is generally one or the other, SS shouldn't be any different. Not allowing reserves to partake is one reason SS are a concession.
This was my thought. They have no reason to give away the farm if they know this summer is already cooked.
05-10-2026 | 03:37 AM
#1147
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Does anyone know the ballpark cost of a cancelled flight? I’m curious what our weekend failures amount to vs the monthly 23m7 bill, which is a more easily identifiable number.
Not that it really matters since no one seems to G.A.S. about differences in pre and post month credit values, the enormous inefficiencies in coverage generated by scheduling, etc.
I’m happy to profit from the chaos, but it’s hard to understand the company’s willingness to accept and endure the current situation.
Not that it really matters since no one seems to G.A.S. about differences in pre and post month credit values, the enormous inefficiencies in coverage generated by scheduling, etc.
I’m happy to profit from the chaos, but it’s hard to understand the company’s willingness to accept and endure the current situation.
05-10-2026 | 04:16 AM
#1148
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We will NEVER go back to the old way of GS going unlimited by seniority. And nor should we. It is absurd and unserious to pretend/propose otherwise.
05-10-2026 | 05:31 AM
#1149
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What incentive would RG even remotely have to legitimately come to the table 6 months after we’ve traded away our greatest piece of leverage?
All contractual desires that this pilot group has for the next 5 years need to be addressed at the time auto-accept is traded away. Pivoting to a comprehensive focus is the best move we can possibly make. IMHO, that’s where we’ll be headed within the next couple weeks.
All contractual desires that this pilot group has for the next 5 years need to be addressed at the time auto-accept is traded away. Pivoting to a comprehensive focus is the best move we can possibly make. IMHO, that’s where we’ll be headed within the next couple weeks.
05-10-2026 | 05:32 AM
#1150
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Yeah, “saving the summer operation” is a charade. It was always about cost for them.
If they cared about the operation, they would rebuild crew scheduling, invest in IT, and immediately utilize QS or SC+M7 for every open trip right at 8 hours prior. They don’t need any contractual changes to do that.
If they cared about the operation, they would rebuild crew scheduling, invest in IT, and immediately utilize QS or SC+M7 for every open trip right at 8 hours prior. They don’t need any contractual changes to do that.
If they did, we'd already be talking about (or voting on) a deal in order to get it fixed before risking summer meltdowns. But we're not, and it sounds like there will be no quick deal.
Instead, FltOps has already taken action (albeit too late) to fix the problem in a way that they think will work: Turning hiring up to 11 UFN.
Blaming the pilot group is just a convenient narrative to throw dust in everyone's eyes, distract from a failure to plan ahead, and sow seeds of distrust and angst toward the pilot group during Section 6 negotiations.
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