Openers today?
04-26-2026 | 03:47 PM
#641
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From: UNA
United guy here, just wondering what the difference is between your Ocean Crossing language and our Global?
on Global flights (and any non Global single or multiple DH segments over 8:00) we will always be in Business, and the company will oversell to place us there. Contract was written when we still had First Class now everything is Business.
Here is our language.
on Global flights (and any non Global single or multiple DH segments over 8:00) we will always be in Business, and the company will oversell to place us there. Contract was written when we still had First Class now everything is Business.
Here is our language.
- Positive space required: When on-line deadheading on a Global Flight, you must be booked positive space. (Section 5-C-2)
- Cabin you must be booked in: You must be booked Business Class if available at booking; if not available then First Class if available. If neither is available, the Company must overbookBusiness (or First if there is no Business cabin) to accommodate you. (Section 5-C-2)
- No downgrade to economy: If you’re booked/overbooked under this provision, you may not be downgraded to Economy (including Economy Plus). “In no case” can you be required to deadhead in Economy/Economy Plus under 5-C-2. (Section 5-C-2)
- If you’re booked in First: You can only be downgraded to Business using the specific procedure in 5-C-1-e. (Section 5-C-2)
I would have to look again but I think we are required to be accommodated in the highest class of service. But that seems to have the same result as your language
04-26-2026 | 03:52 PM
#642
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04-26-2026 | 04:27 PM
#643
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None of my friends at United can remember when they last had to DH in economy. Even when they're on reserve or rerouted last minute. If no seats are available they go to the TOP of the upgrade list and their IT actually works. And their "revenue premium" seems just fine. Why is this so hard to grasp for some people?
04-26-2026 | 04:38 PM
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04-26-2026 | 04:43 PM
#649
Bent over by buybacks
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We are handcuffed to them in so many ways, including improved DH, meals, pos space, you name it. It's not right, but it's the reality. Mgmt is terrified to give us something without giving it to them. It's awful for us and great for them. Unskilled labor piggybacking on us.
04-26-2026 | 04:58 PM
#650
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None of my friends at United can remember when they last had to DH in economy. Even when they're on reserve or rerouted last minute. If no seats are available they go to the TOP of the upgrade list and their IT actually works. And their "revenue premium" seems just fine. Why is this so hard to grasp for some people?
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