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Yesterday | 03:44 AM
#661
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Joined: Jul 2006
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I agree with you that our pay system is a big issue and needs fixed big time. But I bet you've met a pilot who was overpaid, they're just not talking about it.
Yesterday | 04:40 AM
#662
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Joined: Feb 2024
Posts: 364
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More often than not when I DH and all the C+ seats are still blocked 24 hours out (common) - I’ve been asking pilot Assist. Then they say they aren’t available. 20+ open seats. Then I end up in one when the gate agent picks a seat for me in C+. It’s the only part of their IT structure that “works” for them - blocking us from contractual upgrades and pretending like it’s a mistake.
1) Don’t check in right away, but do look at the seat you’re assigned. Once working 24 hours go into the app and move seats BEFORE checking in if you desire a different seat.
2) If you check in and you can’t select C+ upgrade (contract violation), use the “check in again” menu option. It should then ask if you want any or window/aisle only.
3) Once you check in again, it sometimes unlocks the seat moves, but not always.
4) Once you have checked in on the app and set C+ upgrade preferences, within 24 hours but before 1 hour, go into the website and try moving seats. It works sometimes when the app locks you out.
5) Within an hour but outside 40 minutes, try moving seats with the app (doesn’t work often) or the website (sometimes works). Also just talk to the gate agent, who may or may not move you…I had one once who refused to upgrade me in uniform even though I was at the top of the list because they didn’t want to. Fun times.
Yesterday | 05:45 AM
#663
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Joined: May 2022
Posts: 459
Likes: 75
More often than not when I DH and all the C+ seats are still blocked 24 hours out (common) - I’ve been asking pilot Assist. Then they say they aren’t available. 20+ open seats. Then I end up in one when the gate agent picks a seat for me in C+. It’s the only part of their IT structure that “works” for them - blocking us from contractual upgrades and pretending like it’s a mistake.
Yesterday | 06:02 AM
#664
On Reserve
Joined: Oct 2017
Posts: 93
Likes: 7
the fact that there are 5 steps that sometimes work to get your butt in the seat we are contractually entitled to / negotiated for - speaks for itself.
Yesterday | 06:05 AM
#665
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Sep 2013
Posts: 6,549
Likes: 291
From: Sitting SC at the Five Towns
Yesterday | 06:50 AM
#666
Racketeer
Joined: Mar 2015
Posts: 13,238
Likes: 687
From: N60.4858 W149.9327
In my career at this Air Line, I have been underpaid tens of thousands of dollars that I know about. I have been overpaid $780 which they recovered without notice 5 months later. Tell me this isn't intentional.
Yesterday | 07:08 AM
#667
On Reserve
Joined: Aug 2025
Posts: 42
Likes: 45
I've been overpaid before. Also, iCrew pay won't get PAS to match iCrew pay for a wonky month I had. They said iCrew shows the right number, so that's good enough.
Yesterday | 07:09 AM
#668
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 4,106
Likes: 473
These workarounds don’t always work but they have a pretty good track record.
1) Don’t check in right away, but do look at the seat you’re assigned. Once working 24 hours go into the app and move seats BEFORE checking in if you desire a different seat.
2) If you check in and you can’t select C+ upgrade (contract violation), use the “check in again” menu option. It should then ask if you want any or window/aisle only.
3) Once you check in again, it sometimes unlocks the seat moves, but not always.
4) Once you have checked in on the app and set C+ upgrade preferences, within 24 hours but before 1 hour, go into the website and try moving seats. It works sometimes when the app locks you out.
5) Within an hour but outside 40 minutes, try moving seats with the app (doesn’t work often) or the website (sometimes works). Also just talk to the gate agent, who may or may not move you…I had one once who refused to upgrade me in uniform even though I was at the top of the list because they didn’t want to. Fun times.
1) Don’t check in right away, but do look at the seat you’re assigned. Once working 24 hours go into the app and move seats BEFORE checking in if you desire a different seat.
2) If you check in and you can’t select C+ upgrade (contract violation), use the “check in again” menu option. It should then ask if you want any or window/aisle only.
3) Once you check in again, it sometimes unlocks the seat moves, but not always.
4) Once you have checked in on the app and set C+ upgrade preferences, within 24 hours but before 1 hour, go into the website and try moving seats. It works sometimes when the app locks you out.
5) Within an hour but outside 40 minutes, try moving seats with the app (doesn’t work often) or the website (sometimes works). Also just talk to the gate agent, who may or may not move you…I had one once who refused to upgrade me in uniform even though I was at the top of the list because they didn’t want to. Fun times.
Yesterday | 09:05 AM
#670
Line Holder
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 930
Likes: 74
From: 73N
Yeah, I can't help you man. It's not about grasp, it's about disagreement on priorities. Our revenue premium is better than theirs. They are starting to catch up. They fly a lot more than us, we make more than them. Things are changing, but their upgrade models are different. They are fully unionized, Delta is not. They already have language in their possession. It's easy to ask for it, its not so easy to achieve it.
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