Delta Flight Cancellations
05-07-2026 | 12:59 PM
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05-07-2026 | 01:00 PM
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Length of time sitting on the OOBWS step is irrelevant. The company knows that letting a trip remain at that step is not a viable way to get a trip covered.
05-07-2026 | 01:14 PM
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Length of time sitting is absolutely relevant. It reduces the pool of available pilots for trips.
05-07-2026 | 01:15 PM
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Where people if they picked up the phone would say "I can't take it cause I just had a drink", etc. Not fit to fly the GS.
Not dying on a hill, but I think we can all agree that the PWA is written in legalize for a reason. And in the old PWA GS were not proffers. People can "functionally" their way around it all you want, but people who weren't here back then need to understand that GS slips used to not be a proffer, and now they are.
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Not dying on a hill, but I think we can all agree that the PWA is written in legalize for a reason. And in the old PWA GS were not proffers. People can "functionally" their way around it all you want, but people who weren't here back then need to understand that GS slips used to not be a proffer, and now they are.
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While it’s officially correct to say GS were not proffers then (IF they got ahold of you), it’s also pretty disingenuous to represent it as effectively different than now.
05-07-2026 | 01:22 PM
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How is it irrelevant. It prevents people who wanted the OOBWS from getting it if doesn't get down to them. It prevents someone who had a GS in from getting it. It prevents an OOBGS from getting it. When it gets to QS time, it prevents pilots who would have taken it 18 hours prior but are now unable to commute, unable to find a baby sitter, had a drink, etc from taking the trip. How many pilots have their phoned turned off cause they don't want the call in the middle of the night.
Length of time sitting is absolutely relevant. It reduces the pool of available pilots for trips.
Length of time sitting is absolutely relevant. It reduces the pool of available pilots for trips.
Your framing of this as an operational concern is disingenuous. The real concern to you is cost. That is why people are accusing you of being a 4th floor shill.
For any given trip, there are far more pilots willing to fly for 200% than 100%. Especially given 8 hours notice. It’s when the company attempts to wait until 2 hours prior to jump to QS that operational problems arise.
05-07-2026 | 01:53 PM
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Now you’re complaining that the pilot group is getting paid 300% to cover these trips rather than 100%. And you still haven’t answered the question.
Your framing of this as an operational concern is disingenuous. The real concern to you is cost. That is why people are accusing you of being a 4th floor shill.
For any given trip, there are far more pilots willing to fly for 200% than 100%. Especially given 8 hours notice. It’s when the company attempts to wait until 2 hours prior to jump to QS that operational problems arise.
Your framing of this as an operational concern is disingenuous. The real concern to you is cost. That is why people are accusing you of being a 4th floor shill.
For any given trip, there are far more pilots willing to fly for 200% than 100%. Especially given 8 hours notice. It’s when the company attempts to wait until 2 hours prior to jump to QS that operational problems arise.
Commuters can't get easy OOBWS nor far out GS that helped their QOL/pay, In base guys can't get GS far out for QOL/pay. Nobody can get OOBGS that help with QOL/pay.
If you guys think QS is the end all be all, why don't we just eliminate all steps of coverage and just have 1 step inside 18 hours...QS call at 8 hours prior to the trip.
Maybe you guys think differently, but I prefer not to have trips covered at the 8 hour point. The further out the better.
05-07-2026 | 01:57 PM
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I don't care about the operation or the cost to the company. I'm concerned about the trip getting to the people who want to fly them and make money.
Commuters can't get easy OOBWS nor far out GS that helped their QOL/pay, In base guys can't get GS far out for QOL/pay. Nobody can get OOBGS that help with QOL/pay.
If you guys think QS is the end all be all, why don't we just eliminate all steps of coverage and just have 1 step inside 18 hours...QS call at 8 hours prior to the trip.
Maybe you guys think differently, but I prefer not to have trips covered at the 8 hour point. The further out the better.
Commuters can't get easy OOBWS nor far out GS that helped their QOL/pay, In base guys can't get GS far out for QOL/pay. Nobody can get OOBGS that help with QOL/pay.
If you guys think QS is the end all be all, why don't we just eliminate all steps of coverage and just have 1 step inside 18 hours...QS call at 8 hours prior to the trip.
Maybe you guys think differently, but I prefer not to have trips covered at the 8 hour point. The further out the better.
05-07-2026 | 02:09 PM
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You still haven't answered my earlier question about fixing the problem btw.
05-07-2026 | 02:12 PM
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05-07-2026 | 02:40 PM
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So are we still cancelling flights daily or was it due to an "IROP?" The weekly Ops update alluded to weather in the first week of May. Things that make you go Hmmmm? Just curious since I may be commuting on the JS this weekend.
By the way anytime the company mentions IROP I immediately think of Inigo Montoya saying "You keep using this word - I don't think you know what it means."
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By the way anytime the company mentions IROP I immediately think of Inigo Montoya saying "You keep using this word - I don't think you know what it means."
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