Airline Pilot Central Forums - Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?

Right now we have almost zero leaving this year and only 80 or 90 next year. Even 2014 I think is only around 150 or so. Very manageable. Its better and cheaper from the company standpoint to try and get some from years beyond that (where the numbers rapidly rise to >300/year all the way to >800/year) to leave in the next 2-3 years. That way they are gone and the big years down the road are flattened out a bit, thus resulting in a smaller training bubble down the road.

also the more lift you farm out...the less you have to replace overall. a lot of the DCI flying was leaving and not expected back in the near future. I guess think of it as replacing 4000 vs 8000 over the same time...not as difficult. obviously it could change but it's not all good times. someone told me once this hiring/business stuff goes in cycles.

PropNWA

05-24-2012 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1196439)

Honest question, why wasn't flight segments the measuring stick instead of block hours? because surely the long range NBs do not help.

Perhaps because the airline is staffed based on block hours, not segments? If we're looking to increase the number of mainline jobs, it would seem to be in our best interest to increase mainline block hours as much as we can.

grasshopper

05-24-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by PropNWA (Post 1196448)

I can see the block hour thing with a static fleet and network. I'm thinking that is changing though as was released to the press. Answer is that we don't know for sure.

nwaf16dude

05-24-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Maddoggin (Post 1196393)

Does this TA fix the reserves not crediting the same amount for the same trip flown by a lineholder. I've been looking for it but can't seem to find it.

It improves it, but doesn't completely fix it. The 4:30 average daily credit does apply, so you could have a low time two-day where you are getting 9 and the capt is getting 10:30. Better than before, but still not equal. I got that explanation from my rep, who is very quick to answer questions via email.

DogWhisperer

05-24-2012 12:58 PM

Anyone know why Jet Blue was parked at "A" today in ATL? Charter?

forgot to bid

05-24-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by PropNWA (Post 1196448)

we'd still have the rah exemption and the Alaska codeshare to deal with.

orvil

05-24-2012 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DogWhisperer (Post 1196463)

Anyone know why Jet Blue was parked at "A" today in ATL? Charter?

It's part of our new scope. It's new RJ lift.

PropNWA

05-24-2012 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by grasshopper (Post 1196459)

I can see the block hour thing with a static fleet and network. I'm thinking that is changing though as was released to the press. Answer is that we don't know for sure.

No, it's right there in the staffing formula. It's block hours and always has been.

Maddoggin

05-24-2012 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1196430)

No. No change. It sucks for reserves.

I thought that would have been a for sure change with the allowance of ALV+15 for reserves. Add that to the list of negatives!

Bucking Bar

05-24-2012 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1196406)

Pass through question from my email, what will the consolidated fleet look like between now and 2015 if we say no to this TA?

Because they're in the crewroom saying DCI will decrease to 450... but would it decrease to anyways?

Slow says the leases start to expire in 2014 & 2015. Is your question:
(1) The beginning of 2015
(2) The end of 2015
(3) What is the net difference whether we accept, or refuse, this TA?

I think the answer to #3 is probably fewer RJ's and certainly fewer seats outsourced without the TA.

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