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Originally Posted by Maddoggin (Post 1196476)

I thought that would have been a for sure change with the allowance of ALV+15 for reserves. Add that to the list of negatives!

Yep, reserves are on the hook for up to 99 hours--with the old reserve trip calculation rules! :eek:

Thanks, DALPA.

And thanks for signing off on the ridiculous sick leave policy.

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Originally Posted by More Bacon (Post 1196482)

Yep, reserves are on the hook for up to 99 hours--with the old reserve trip calculation rules! :eek:

Thanks, DALPA.

And thanks for signing off on the ridiculous sick leave policy.

How the heck are you going to end up going to 99 hours in 18 days on? Think before you type!

I'm trying to figure out why we accept that DALPA won't allow a "white paper" on this TA. They're supposed to be looking out for us, not trying to steamroll us and cloud debate.

Has anyone seen any "white paper" type of document (other than the great posts here) that blows the lid off this thing and reveals all the hidden "gems" that DALPA disingenuously omits from its propaganda?

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There aren't a whole lot of DC-9's left (20?), but I expect there will be quite a few older 757 and A320 parked. Through 2015 we're scheduled to take 88 B717, 25 MD-90 added in service and 60 new 737-900. That's 173 aircraft in 3 1/2 years. When you factor in the DCI jets being parked and the block hour ratio, a lot more Delta flying will be done by Delta pilots.

As announced, these are all replacement aircraft, many replacing higher paying aircraft.

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Originally Posted by More Bacon (Post 1196482)

Yep, reserves are on the hook for up to 99 hours--with the old reserve trip calculation rules! :eek:

Wonder what this will do to the greenslips, lots of people bank on those.

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Originally Posted by DogWhisperer (Post 1196463)

Anyone know why Jet Blue was parked at "A" today in ATL? Charter?

They came in with a fire truck behind them, so I don't think it was a planned landing.

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Originally Posted by orvil (Post 1196430)

No. No change. It sucks for reserves.

According to my rep, that is inaccurate. See my previous post above.

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Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1196439)

oooooh. there is some good data to play with here and I am! :D

Now, I've got other things to do but one nagging thing that comes up as I dissect the fun numbers. Why did we allow all domestic NB aircraft from the DC9 to 763 count in this TA towards the mainline block hours? Why not just use small NB?

I know we have some long legs on the RJs but 85% have to be under 900sm. So for the most part they're nowhere near as long as our 763s, 738s, 737s.

Even with the ratio, you can get to the point that we're flying 1.9 million block hours and they're down around 1.2 million. rounding here. Divide that out by an average flight segments. If we fly 2.5 hours/segment on average and they do 1.2 average, they get to do 35% more segments then we do.

And I have a sneaking suspicion it might be more than 2.5 ABH for us but whatever it is I bet we average more hours per segment than an RJ.

Honest question, why wasn't flight segments the measuring stick instead of block hours? because surely the long range NBs do not help.

On the short to medium range flights it seems flight segments is a better measuring stick.

Also by the math, seems we do a lot more hours per plane than they do. Is that because they do more short segments?

So you want to let them cut 737 and 767 flying while they add 717's? We included all domestic because we wanted to include all domestic. That's the point, they can't play hide the ball.

I will go back to block hours. The very first input to determine line holders in the staffing formula is block hours. Not flight segments, ASM's, or any other metric. If you want to protect Delta pilot jobs, you want to protect as many as possible and you want to protect them with the key item that creates jobs. If we cut a 757 from JFK to LAX and replace it with an out and back in a 717 from ATL to SAV, you doubled the flight segments and cut the manning required by two thirds. Please go back and read the staffing formula and understand it. It is in Section 22 of your contract, I believe page 3 or 4.

You didn't tell me what number you came up with in my math problem. No one else did either. I wonder why?

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1196484)

How the heck are you going to end up going to 99 hours in 18 days on? Think before you type!

I flew 72 in just 14 reserve days in March. Not sure if you have been junior on reserve in a while, but 99 is absolutely doable from the companies mindset. It means less pilots required because they will be flying us 85 or so hours per month.

I experienced it at CAL, and can tell you first hand how bad it sucks. Being on call 18 days a month, is a big difference from flying 18 days a month every month. You are just an unscheduled line holder.

I don't mind paying my dues, and have sat a 2 year furlough with ALPA to hold the scope line, but this TA and the reduction of reserves required MOU/LOA is a screw job.

Any junior guy that votes for this thing is a moron.

Any junior Captain who votes yes is a bigger moron!

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Originally Posted by DogWhisperer (Post 1196463)

Anyone know why Jet Blue was parked at "A" today in ATL? Charter?

Maybe a charter, but they are planning a full on assault on DL over the next year or two. At least 3 of our hubs. Based on rolling over and giving up BOS without a whimper, they are probably feeling saucy that we'll let them have their way in ATL, DTW and MSP while letting them set the fare buckets.