Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
05-24-2012 | 02:49 PM
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A little levity
05-24-2012 | 02:51 PM
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So you want to let them cut 737 and 767 flying while they add 717's? We included all domestic because we wanted to include all domestic. That's the point, they can't play hide the ball.
I will go back to block hours. The very first input to determine line holders in the staffing formula is block hours. Not flight segments, ASM's, or any other metric. If you want to protect Delta pilot jobs, you want to protect as many as possible and you want to protect them with the key item that creates jobs. If we cut a 757 from JFK to LAX and replace it with an out and back in a 717 from ATL to SAV, you doubled the flight segments and cut the manning required by two thirds. Please go back and read the staffing formula and understand it. It is in Section 22 of your contract, I believe page 3 or 4.
You didn't tell me what number you came up with in my math problem. No one else did either. I wonder why?
I will go back to block hours. The very first input to determine line holders in the staffing formula is block hours. Not flight segments, ASM's, or any other metric. If you want to protect Delta pilot jobs, you want to protect as many as possible and you want to protect them with the key item that creates jobs. If we cut a 757 from JFK to LAX and replace it with an out and back in a 717 from ATL to SAV, you doubled the flight segments and cut the manning required by two thirds. Please go back and read the staffing formula and understand it. It is in Section 22 of your contract, I believe page 3 or 4.
You didn't tell me what number you came up with in my math problem. No one else did either. I wonder why?
Carl
05-24-2012 | 03:22 PM
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Why in the world are we HELPING out SWA by taking the 717s? I thought there were a bunch of 319s out there that were a good price.
05-24-2012 | 03:43 PM
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05-24-2012 | 03:56 PM
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05-24-2012 | 04:02 PM
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If this TA is approved and the next TA in 2015 has a cap 400DCI airplanes but all of them 76 seats would you guys approve that also with a modest 4% per year increase? At what point is enough is enough.
I currently fly one of these 76 seat jets (E75) and these jets should be at flown by Delta pilots. No excuse. I have a trip next month. SLC-SNA-SLC-MCI-DTW in 1 day. These jets are no longer a regional jet like in the past but a very comfortable jet with less people. The only thing different from a paxs perspective is no safety video
I currently fly one of these 76 seat jets (E75) and these jets should be at flown by Delta pilots. No excuse. I have a trip next month. SLC-SNA-SLC-MCI-DTW in 1 day. These jets are no longer a regional jet like in the past but a very comfortable jet with less people. The only thing different from a paxs perspective is no safety video
05-24-2012 | 04:15 PM
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If this TA is approved and the next TA in 2015 has a cap 400DCI airplanes but all of them 76 seats would you guys approve that also with a modest 4% per year increase? At what point is enough is enough.
I currently fly one of these 76 seat jets (E75) and these jets should be at flown by Delta pilots. No excuse. I have a trip next month. SLC-SNA-SLC-MCI-DTW in 1 day. These jets are no longer a regional jet like in the past but a very comfortable jet with less people. The only thing different from a paxs perspective is no safety video
I currently fly one of these 76 seat jets (E75) and these jets should be at flown by Delta pilots. No excuse. I have a trip next month. SLC-SNA-SLC-MCI-DTW in 1 day. These jets are no longer a regional jet like in the past but a very comfortable jet with less people. The only thing different from a paxs perspective is no safety video
05-24-2012 | 04:31 PM
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Why are we allowing DALPA to compare this contract in terms of the 2008 bankruptcy-ish rates?
What is so magical about 2008? I'd expect the company to choose that year.
But if "our" union is picking a year to benchmark, why on earth not pick C2K?
What is so magical about 2008? I'd expect the company to choose that year.
But if "our" union is picking a year to benchmark, why on earth not pick C2K?
05-24-2012 | 04:31 PM
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From: Just happy to be here Boss!
TA also has a block hour ratio which grows in DAL pilots favor with each 76. This prevents adding the new ML frames only to dump others...the new ML jets must be growth.
05-24-2012 | 04:37 PM
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You missed the point. He's talking about DALPA's inability to draw a line in the sand. He's talking about our willingness to buy more and bigger airplanes for other airlines to fly. It's not about the numbers; it's about the spine.
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