And when do those SWA lease obligations end? 2017?

Is this just a gap fill?

 

Excellent! Slowly but surely, the truth is coming out here. Just as I've been saying, the "opportunity" was the company's huge desire to get out from under our CURRENT contract. Ergo, we have significant leverage...if we understand how much our CURRENT contract is damaging Delta. Ironically, they are now against the very contract items they fought so hard to insert. There RJ dream has turned into a nightmare, and we are being asked to save their experiment from death, by further gutting our conract. Such a deal I have for you!!

Our CURRENT contract puts them in a hell of a position. With our hard 255 cap on large RJ's, their only alternative is to invest (via maintenance, re-engining) in a money losing and dying airframe. Again, who has the leverage?

Despite what our MEC salesman are saying, Delta WILL renegotiate this deal if we say NO. Guaranteed. The SEA S/T has it right however when he states how personally and professionally invested our MEC is in THIS product. It is impossible for them to be objective now. Understand that with the road shows, etc.

Then let them. And let them explain that to the board and shareholders. I'll wait.

That's already been answered by the LEC NO votes. Delta pilots willl not benefit from that investment with this TA.

Carl

 

Eeeeeee-Yup!

Carl

 

I realize you weren't around when AMR Eagle or Mesa (flying as USAirways Express) operated as DCI carriers, but here's some history. Both of those airlines were owned by companies that had other subsidiaries that operated non-permitted aircraft. None of those subsidiaries with non-permitted aircraft could carry Delta passengers, code or revenue. That's exactly the same with RAH and Frontier. No Delta passengers or revenue can fly on Frontier. As I pointed out in another thread, Delta used RAH operated DCI carriers to compete directly with Frontier. Bedford said his 50 seat DCI flying wasn't profitable, and DCI made Frontier less profitable. Sucks to be Bedford.

Now Bedford's in a circumstance where he can't dump Frontier and he has large debt payments due. What's his path out? What plans has Bedford successfully executed on since he started his branded strategy?

Why would Delta (a founding SkyTeam and its largest member) allow Bedford to take money out of Delta's pockets by flying SkyTeam member code under the SkyTeam banner on its RAH's own branded operation? There's no logic to that position as I see it. Bedford certainly can't fly Delta or Atlantaic JV code with his branded carrier certificate using other than permitted aicraft under our current arrangements.

What am I missing that is causing you concern?

 

Really? The 5 are so much smarter than the 14 in your book...

You still can't handle the truth...

 

Engines are for pussies.

Carl

 

I didn't know you were privy to the components of a multi-party deal! Tell me, who has the residual risk on those aircraft...?

 

How are things in that bomb proof bunker in Omaha?

Couldn't agree more with your second paragraph.

 

IMO, it furthers the whipsaw, but in the case of RAH, it affects regionals AND mainline equally.

How anyone can possibly defend the RAH carveout, especially a union official, is utterly mindboggling.

It's like saying noone can kick us in the nutz, except johnny.

With your statement (above), am I safe to assume that you favor the US gov't sending welfare payments to Mexicans (living in Mexico) who were once illegal aliens in the US?

 

With guys like you flying topcover, I have to add 6 more feet of re-inforced concrete to the roof.