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Old 06-04-2012 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mynameisjim
Thats the real reason Delta wants a quick agreement. They know you won't accept the 33% reduction in profit sharing in a year or two when profits are up.
Oil went from the $140's to the mid $40's a few years back. How much profit sharing was paid out then? I recall a whole bunch of furloughs from most airlines during that time.

If oil goes to $25/bbl we've got a whole different set of problems. Nobody is going to be talking about profit sharing, growth or upsides.
Old 06-04-2012 | 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mynameisjim
Copy and paste the article title into Google News, click the link, and it's free. wsj and google have an agreement.

Hmmmmm why would the WSJ outsource their work like that? If I were the author I'd be ****ed.. think of the money I am losing. Must have ALPA as their negotiators..
Old 06-04-2012 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by mynameisjim
Thats the real reason Delta wants a quick agreement. They know you won't accept the 33% reduction in profit sharing in a year or two when profits are up.
Funny stuff right there....
Old 06-04-2012 | 05:49 AM
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When will we be able to vote on this TA. For some reason I thought we could do it now.

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Old 06-04-2012 | 06:00 AM
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crewdawg52, I just sent you a PM.
Old 06-04-2012 | 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by slowplay
Oil went from the $140's to the mid $40's a few years back. How much profit sharing was paid out then? I recall a whole bunch of furloughs from most airlines during that time.

If oil goes to $25/bbl we've got a whole different set of problems. Nobody is going to be talking about profit sharing, growth or upsides.
Agree.

Economy goes up, oil goes up. Economy goes down, oil goes down. Until something breaks that trend the economy and the higher cost of energy will be screaming...



ROLL TIDE ROLL.
Old 06-04-2012 | 06:29 AM
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That all points to the likelihood of getting a better deal if we vote this down. Plus, who wants downside protections in this environment?
Old 06-04-2012 | 11:07 AM
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I wonder what the vote tally would be if the pilots voted twice:

The first vote would be what was best for them personally.
The second vote would be what was best for the pilot group.

I think that if they voted for what was best for the pilot group (as a whole) the
TA would be voted down.

Anyway, that is the biggest problem that ALPA has, and has had the past 20 years, at least. Everyone is voting for what is best for them instead of what is best for the entire group, and vis a vis, the profession. That is why this career is where it is nowadays.

I guess you could say Congress has the same problem.
Old 06-04-2012 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by nyc7erb
I wonder what the vote tally would be if the pilots voted twice:

The first vote would be what was best for them personally.
The second vote would be what was best for the pilot group.

I think that if they voted for what was best for the pilot group (as a whole) the
TA would be voted down.

Anyway, that is the biggest problem that ALPA has, and has had the past 20 years, at least. Everyone is voting for what is best for them instead of what is best for the entire group, and vis a vis, the profession. That is why this career is where it is nowadays.

I guess you could say Congress has the same problem.
Has nothing to do with legacies coming out of regulation with bloated and expensive payrolls vis a vis all the new low cost carriers, or the economy, or oil, bad management teams, the NMB/RLA hose job, etc. etc. No it's those darn selfish pilots and the ALPA boogieman ! Get real !!!!
Old 06-04-2012 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by crewdawg52
March 4, oil at $105 a barrel. June 4, oil at $82. Think I read somewhere that DAL saves $100 million on fuel costs for every $1 drop in the cost of a barrel.

CRUDE OIL PRICE: Oil | Energy | Petroleum | Oil Price | Crude Oil Charts | Oil Price Forecast

You do the math.
You figure out why no one is buying oil.

Perhaps it is because they figure no one is going to buy airline tickets, or want to drive their car to work ... so they go to the next link in the chain.
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