Originally Posted by jabwmu (Post 1210163)

Sick out question on reserve.

Suppose you get sick and have 1 day left on reserve, followed by 1 day off, followed by more on call days. For example:

Tues: Reserve (Call in Sick)
Wed: Off
Thur: Reserve
Fri: Reserve (Call in Well)

If you call in sick on Tuesday and call in well on Friday, is this considered 1 sick call? How does the company handle the Off day? Would you use sick time on the Off day?

Thanks.

Originally Posted by Delta1067 (Post 1210259)

What would the company consider more negative?

A) A reserve pilot who over the past year called in sick 7 different times for 1-2 reserve days at a time.

B) A reserve pilot who over the past year called in sick 3 times for 8 day reserve stretches.

Pilot A only misses 10 days of reserve over 7 calls or pilot B who misses 24 days of reserve over 3 calls? Any thoughts?

Or maybe I should ask which pilot is most likely to get a call from the CP regarding attendance.

Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1210276)

80 covered 1 & 2 well. I'll cover 3 since I'm a commuter. Here is the commuting policy covered in our current contract. It's identical in the proposed TA.

1. A commuting pilot is expected to arrive at his base with sufficient time and with adequate rest prior to beginning scheduled duty.
2. A commuting pilot who is unable to report to his base as scheduled, due to an interruption to his travel plans, will notify Crew Scheduling of his inability to report as soon as possible.
Crew Scheduling may, at its discretion:
a. deadhead the pilot (without pay or credit) to join his rotation,
b. place the pilot on his rotation when it transits his base (without a rotation guarantee),
c. remove the pilot from the rotation without pay, or
d. remove the reserve pilot from his on-call day without pay.
Note: Such day will be considered a non-fly day for purposes of A commuting pilot who travels to his base by air will not be eligible for treatment under 2 Section 23 Y. 2. unless he has attempted to travel on at least two flights (on and/or off 3 line) that:
a. show adequate actual seat availability within 24 hours of the departure, considering the pilot's seniority and the normal load factor of the flight; or, on which the pilot has a jumpseat reservation,
b. are scheduled to arrive at his base at a reasonable time before his scheduled report, and
c. are separated by at least two hours.
4. It is expected that a pilot will avail himself of Section 23 Y. 2. on a rare basis. 5. A pilot who has demonstrated a pattern of inability to report as scheduled will be subject 12 to progressive disciplinary action.
6. If the FAA amends its policies to treat commuting time as a break in a pilot's rest period:
a. this commuting policy will be canceled, and
b. the Company and Association will seek agreement on a suitable replacement for this 16 commuting policy.

We also have an FOM Policy(which means management can yank it whenever they want) called the Unable to Commute policy. If we give ourselves 2 flights and can't make first and the second is also full, just call scheduling and they positive space you. I have commuted to DTW and now NYC, and have yet to needed to use this policy. Knock on wood. :D

Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1210204)

Is somebody getting hormone swings from the pregnancy?

I didn't know the 25 year old 2008 hire had feelings:D

Not directed at you, but your post is a good springboard. Some of you guys are confusing me...making up spreadsheets or throwing Mettler math and talking about "facts", then when those are shown to be made up talking about feelings.

There's got to be a good Youtube that would fit here.

Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1210260)

I will say that the fear campaign seems to be working. Lots of guys hate this deal but are sold on the fear.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1210345)

What a bunch of crap. What you call fear might just be guys looking at the logic of our position, and the deal before us being the good deal it is and voting accordingly. YOU spin it as fear.

Originally Posted by tsquare (Post 1210345)

What a bunch of crap. What you call fear might just be guys looking at the logic of our position, and the deal before us being the good deal it is and voting accordingly. YOU spin it as fear.

Originally Posted by tsquare

What a bunch of crap. What you call fear might just be guys looking at the logic of our position, and the deal before us being the good deal it is and voting accordingly. YOU spin it as fear.

Originally Posted by DLpilot

I can't count how many times that I have heard the word fear come out of the supporters. They tell me over and over that this TA is not great but they fear the company walking away if it is turned down.