Do you know how many things needed to be fixed from our BK contract? A lot. Do you really think EVERYTHING can be fixed in one shot? Is that realistic? Oh that's right, we have leverage. We know exactly which way management will go, with the RJs and everything. Really?

Wow. It's never below you for an opportune insult ad a wide swath of people.

And that's 25 year old 2007 hire to you. I've got a lot more long term interest in this TA than you, and it needs to be done right. You ALPAoids have let major fails in every section of the TA.

Nothing to be gained for Junior pilots that years left and leverage on our side for this contract. Dead-zoners have nothing to gain on this as well.

We blew an unbelievable amount of leverage rushing this TA through the grinder.

Talk about arrogant, your opinion is worth more because you're junior ? I think we all have an interest in this contract and we all have one vote. Ther are good points pro and con and then there is internet bs. I believe his comments were directed at some of the bad and made up numbers being posted as fact.

Q3 There is a rumor that Delta will trade 737-900s for B-717s. Is it true?
A3 No, that rumor is false. Delta will take the first delivery of the 737-900s in late 2013 as planned,
and there is no change to the delivery schedule moving forward.

How about 737-800 slots?

Sorry, I let him get under my skin. The point is that I have to be very careful with the long term implications of this TA.

I let him get to me and answered his arrogance with arrogance. I apologize.

Couldn't decide where to put it, so I'll put in the "main thread". I'm surprised and kinda saddened by what seems to be the most unbelievable religious transformation witnessed by mankind since Saul became Paul on the road to Damascus.

I don't know if I actually believe Bill Lumberg is even the same person, and am worried the actual guy might have been kidnapped for some reason and replaced by one of the company's negotiators. I used to enjoy reading his posts, but now wherever I go I find him spouting diatribe like some energizer-bunny-weblog-superhero who never sleeps and can't be stopped.

Like most folks who change their religion, he seems to have become a zealot who feels me must convert every other member of his old religion, and must do so with 100% of his breath remaining in life. Some sort of internal defense mechanism/justification I'm sure is chapter 1 or 2 of Psych 101, but just really amazing to witness in person.

No insult really intended, and a bit of humor, and I'm not sure I can point to anything he's posting as more than a difference of opinion... but I keep feeling like there's something wrong there, like some secret government/Delta conspiracy has replaced good ol' Bill with an android-psychokiller who's just waiting for everyone to fall asleep to perform his mission. Really, it made me double check all the locks last night, and look in all the corners of the bathroom this morning before I settled in to read the forums.

Has anyone seen Bill ingest food recently, or should be begin considering some sort of rescue mission?
;)

To add a point:

I was at the DFW Roadshow last Friday. During Q & A, when leverage for 'next time' came up, TO indicated* that if/when a merger happens, a new JCBA will be needed, and THAT will give us leverage. (* Not putting words in his mouth.)

Glad for all the points y'all bring up. Wish I could type as fast as y'all seem to!

(Still on the No side of the fence, but the gate's open.)

No problem, I like the discussions