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Tomcat 06-05-2012 12:56 PM


Originally Posted by Tomcat (Post 1205591)
I just bought 2 gallons of Shermin Williams mid-grade interior paint for $61.14 including a 30% discount (normally over $86). As a 12 year 320 FO, It took roughly 45 minutes of flying to pay for this paint. We may be averaging 3% inflation, but it doesn't feel that low when I walk out of the store. I think we will be moving backwards years 2 and 3 of this contract with 3% increases (IMHO).

Carry on.

TC

I'm not really saying Pro or Con on the TA. Just voicing concerns and say, "When did paint get so damn expensive".

LeineLodge 06-05-2012 12:57 PM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1205497)
My understanding is shadow days will give you credit towards your line value. I think it's a pro ration of the ALV. Regardless, I think the value of the days will show up on your PBS Calendar. I don't think it can award a trip on those shadow days.

NOT CORRECT! You can call the PBS hotline to verify, but I had this situation in May.

PBS WILL award you trips during your shadow period. They will subsequently be dropped back into the pot and awarded to a junior bidder. You are not responsible to fly any of the trips that touch any of your shadow days. You will be paid the value of these trips or whatever you fly, such as OE, whichever is greater.

The gouge is to bid as much credit touching your shadow days as possible. With only 6 days of shadow you can really only get 30 hours max (30-7 limit) but I'd try to fit as much credit into that shadow period as I could to frontload your month and give you more pay, with more time off at the end of the month.

Keep in mind that it's any trip that touches ANY part of the shadow period, so you could bid a 2 day on 1st and 2nd. Then a 5 day, or more depending on the category, starting on the 6th. The entire rotation will be awarded/paid, but dropped back into the pot, because the 6th is a shadow day.

Happy bidding!

finis72 06-05-2012 12:58 PM


Originally Posted by Tomcat (Post 1205609)
I'm not really saying Pro or Con on the TA. Just voicing concerns and say, "When did paint get so damn expensive".

It's oil based, should be cheaper next week but they will raise the crack spread on paint so it won't be cheaper unless you buy a paint factory.

Tomcat 06-05-2012 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by finis72 (Post 1205613)
It's oil based, should be cheaper next week but they will raise the crack spread on paint so it won't be cheaper unless you buy a paint factory.

Now that's funny. Thanks

forgot to bid 06-05-2012 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 1205608)
2012--331
2013--329
2014--327
2015--311
2016--254
2017--221
2018--195
2019--155
2020--111
2021--82
2022--38
2023--13
2024--0

From the DALPA roadshow handout

CVG, just to clarify is that CRJ-200s or 50 seaters in general?


----
"What he say?"

"He said blessed are the cheesemakers."

"Cheesemakers? What's so special about cheesemakers?"

"I don't think he means just cheesemakers, I think he means dairy producers in general."

"You have a big nose."

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FTB is sorry. very sorry.... sorry.

CVG767A 06-05-2012 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1205617)
CVG, just to clarify is that CRJ-200s or 50 seaters in general?


Sorry 'bout that. I meant all 50 seaters.

johnso29 06-05-2012 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 1205608)
2012--331
2013--329
2014--327
2015--311
2016--254
2017--221
2018--195
2019--155
2020--111
2021--82
2022--38
2023--13
2024--0

From the DALPA roadshow handout

Thank you Sir. :)

johnso29 06-05-2012 01:05 PM


Originally Posted by LeineLodge (Post 1205611)
NOT CORRECT! You can call the PBS hotline to verify, but I had this situation in May.

PBS WILL award you trips during your shadow period. They will subsequently be dropped back into the pot and awarded to a junior bidder. You are not responsible to fly any of the trips that touch any of your shadow days. You will be paid the value of these trips or whatever you fly, such as OE, whichever is greater.

The gouge is to bid as much credit touching your shadow days as possible. With only 6 days of shadow you can really only get 30 hours max (30-7 limit) but I'd try to fit as much credit into that shadow period as I could to frontload your month and give you more pay, with more time off at the end of the month.

Keep in mind that it's any trip that touches ANY part of the shadow period, so you could bid a 2 day on 1st and 2nd. Then a 5 day, or more depending on the category, starting on the 6th. The entire rotation will be awarded/paid, but dropped back into the pot, because the 6th is a shadow day.

Happy bidding!

Thanks for correcting my error. I have only had shadow bidding experience eith reserve. I deleted my post.

forgot to bid 06-05-2012 01:06 PM


Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 1205620)
Sorry 'bout that. I meant all 50 seaters.

No worries! Thanks for sharing that schedule.

Which I think lends to one of the oddities of the whole 76 for 50 seater swap, when did it dawn on folks that the 50 seater was not economical?

And was that before or after they signed long term contracts for the airplanes that they are now asking for relief on?

johnso29 06-05-2012 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1205627)
No worries! Thanks for sharing that schedule.

Which I think lends to one of the oddities of the whole 76 for 50 seater swap, when did it dawn on folks that the 50 seater was not economical?

And was that before or after they signed long term contracts for the airplanes that they are now asking for relief on?

Another unknown is that if they invest in the 50 seaters, will they extend the contracts longer?


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