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mynameisjim 06-03-2012 03:44 PM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1203758)
They could only operate them at the mainline if its on a cost competitive basis. We once again attempted to show that it could be done. We could not produce numbers even close. Thats the fallacy of the operate at the mainline concept. Unless you cost competitive you lose the flying completely and lose the existing mainline flying the feed generated....

With that negotiating strategy, I'll be surprised if there are any fleets that Delta pilots can fly on a cost competitive basis. I bet DCI could operate every Delta fleet for less than Delta pilots, but that's the whole point of scope, isn't it?

Sink r8 06-03-2012 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by Red Five (Post 1204123)
Are there forums of some type in the ALPA.org site?

Of the crappiest type, yes. Some would like to duplicate it here, but the underboob soothes us all.

SailorJerry 06-03-2012 04:31 PM

Anyone know anything about the new ATL crew room wifi provider? Will it notify the CPO if we were to search for "underboob"?

I'm surprised there's no smoke and water damage down there. 400+ pages burned in effigy must be pretty awesome.

Timbo 06-03-2012 04:46 PM


Originally Posted by Sink r8 (Post 1204138)
Of the crappiest type, yes. Some would like to duplicate it here, but the underboob soothes us all.


Speaking of which...we have been WAY below our UB quota ever since this damn T/A dropped!

Come ON Jesse, I need a fix! :D

Carl Spackler 06-03-2012 04:55 PM


Originally Posted by cni187 (Post 1204118)
My reason to vote no. Tired of donating(unwillingly) to scope sales. We all have college degrees and are smart enough to know when we're not hearing the whole truth!

It's really just that simple. Are we being spoken to by Warren Buffett, or Bernie Madoff. Only you can decide.

Carl

forgot to bid 06-03-2012 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DogWhisperer (Post 1203008)


Ode to FTB.......

:D

for some reason the picture won't repost?

forgot to bid 06-03-2012 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by CVG767A (Post 1202545)
Average reserve at Delta flies 45hrs/month, according to DALPA

Thanks CVG!


Originally Posted by bigbusdriver (Post 1202654)
No you can't. The staffing formula is set at 60. If reserves aren't flying 60 hours today, then we are still overstaffed, because the formula would have swung the other way. What those 40 hour reserves need is more block time. The TA purportedly moves more block time to Delta and the reserve pilot might have to do the 60 hours they were hired to do. If they go over 60 hours, the formula adds more reserves. Except for the new language, the formula is pretty much unchanged. I think C2K had reserves at 55 and Express reserves at 65?

If we can change the work rules and get that 45 up to 60, that's 15 hours on average per pilot per month.

Paper napkin math here so be warned...

But if I just do a snap shot of ATL 88 B, DTW 330 B, LAX 73N A and NYC 7ER A, it says on average 19% of our active seniority list is on reserve.

Using the 22D3 number of Nov 12 of 10,596 pilots x 19% you come out with around 2,026 pilots.

2,026 x 45 hours a month is 91,200 hours. As in the amount of flying done by reserve is 91,200 hours. Take 91,200 and divide it by 60 hours and come out with 1,519 pilots.

506 less than we have now, if you can get 45 to 60.

yeah.

You know how we could really get them to do more of their share? Cancel reserve pilots vacations. Make them fly. Also, more RES days and less X days. And no paybacks. And no ALV+15 limit. All of that should help get them to the 60 hours they were hired to do.

Thrust Normal 06-03-2012 05:55 PM


Originally Posted by Red Five (Post 1204108)
Heya folks, sorry to go off-topic from the TA discussions. New to MSP... anyone got a good AME south of the river? Need to do my Class I again this month and hoping to find a pilot friendly AME near home...

Occupational Medical Consultants (OMC) in Edina. I use a guy named Dr. Jetzer but they're all really good. Easy to schedule and pilot friendly.

kiteflyer 06-03-2012 06:14 PM

Dr Sidell

Morningside family physicians

Sink r8 06-03-2012 06:27 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1204159)
...the 60 hours they were hired to do.

Amusing language, isn't it? I don't know that pilots were ever hired to be Reserves. I was told we only hired Captains. Maybe Reserve Captains?

All kidding aside, most of all know what Reserve entails, but when I was hired a Reserve (30% of us, btw) was a person used to cover contingencies. Now they're an unscheduled lineholder. With the RAW buckets, it's marginal, but it's definitely not a perfect world. And I, for one, am sick of the bottom of any category, some who are quite senior, getting treated like red-headed step-children.

As an aside, I haven't looked back on our LOA's, but the Reserve daily guarantee is still :15 less than Lineholder, correct?

I don't think the average Reserve will actually look on the TA, in general, as making their life worse. But I still don't like this "60 hours they were hired to do". We were hired as professionals, to do a professional's job, in dignified conditions. It wasn't just me selling myself to Delta at the interview: it went the other way too.


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