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slowplay 06-04-2012 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 1204337)
Thats the real reason Delta wants a quick agreement. They know you won't accept the 33% reduction in profit sharing in a year or two when profits are up.

Oil went from the $140's to the mid $40's a few years back. How much profit sharing was paid out then?:rolleyes: I recall a whole bunch of furloughs from most airlines during that time.

If oil goes to $25/bbl we've got a whole different set of problems. Nobody is going to be talking about profit sharing, growth or upsides.:eek:

tsquare 06-04-2012 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 1204304)
Copy and paste the article title into Google News, click the link, and it's free. wsj and google have an agreement.


Hmmmmm why would the WSJ outsource their work like that? If I were the author I'd be ****ed.. think of the money I am losing. Must have ALPA as their negotiators.. :eek:

tsquare 06-04-2012 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by mynameisjim (Post 1204337)
Thats the real reason Delta wants a quick agreement. They know you won't accept the 33% reduction in profit sharing in a year or two when profits are up.

Funny stuff right there....

BoyFromSouth 06-04-2012 05:49 AM

When will we be able to vote on this TA. For some reason I thought we could do it now.

Thanks
BFS

Amish Pilot 06-04-2012 06:00 AM

crewdawg52, I just sent you a PM.

forgot to bid 06-04-2012 06:05 AM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1204343)
Oil went from the $140's to the mid $40's a few years back. How much profit sharing was paid out then? I recall a whole bunch of furloughs from most airlines during that time.

If oil goes to $25/bbl we've got a whole different set of problems. Nobody is going to be talking about profit sharing, growth or upsides.:eek:

Agree.

Economy goes up, oil goes up. Economy goes down, oil goes down. Until something breaks that trend the economy and the higher cost of energy will be screaming...

http://roushtransportservices.devhub...tug-of-war.jpg

ROLL TIDE ROLL. :D

PropNWA 06-04-2012 06:29 AM

That all points to the likelihood of getting a better deal if we vote this down. Plus, who wants downside protections in this environment? :rolleyes:

nyc7erb 06-04-2012 11:07 AM

I wonder what the vote tally would be if the pilots voted twice:

The first vote would be what was best for them personally.
The second vote would be what was best for the pilot group.

I think that if they voted for what was best for the pilot group (as a whole) the
TA would be voted down.

Anyway, that is the biggest problem that ALPA has, and has had the past 20 years, at least. Everyone is voting for what is best for them instead of what is best for the entire group, and vis a vis, the profession. That is why this career is where it is nowadays.

I guess you could say Congress has the same problem.

finis72 06-04-2012 11:15 AM


Originally Posted by nyc7erb (Post 1204687)
I wonder what the vote tally would be if the pilots voted twice:

The first vote would be what was best for them personally.
The second vote would be what was best for the pilot group.

I think that if they voted for what was best for the pilot group (as a whole) the
TA would be voted down.

Anyway, that is the biggest problem that ALPA has, and has had the past 20 years, at least. Everyone is voting for what is best for them instead of what is best for the entire group, and vis a vis, the profession. That is why this career is where it is nowadays.

I guess you could say Congress has the same problem.

Has nothing to do with legacies coming out of regulation with bloated and expensive payrolls vis a vis all the new low cost carriers, or the economy, or oil, bad management teams, the NMB/RLA hose job, etc. etc. No it's those darn selfish pilots and the ALPA boogieman ! Get real !!!!

Bucking Bar 06-04-2012 11:18 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg52 (Post 1204327)
March 4, oil at $105 a barrel. June 4, oil at $82. Think I read somewhere that DAL saves $100 million on fuel costs for every $1 drop in the cost of a barrel.

CRUDE OIL PRICE: Oil | Energy | Petroleum | Oil Price | Crude Oil Charts | Oil Price Forecast

You do the math.

You figure out why no one is buying oil.

Perhaps it is because they figure no one is going to buy airline tickets, or want to drive their car to work ... so they go to the next link in the chain.


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