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KC10 FATboy 06-04-2012 11:19 AM

Nice, DAL stock is down nearly 11% right now. Good times.

Airlines Tumble On Delta's Weak May Traffic Figures

Airlines Down After Delta Says Passenger Revenue Slid In May, Despite Lower Fuel Costs - Investors.com

tsquare 06-04-2012 12:03 PM


Originally Posted by nyc7erb (Post 1204687)
I wonder what the vote tally would be if the pilots voted twice:

The first vote would be what was best for them personally.
The second vote would be what was best for the pilot group.

I think that if they voted for what was best for the pilot group (as a whole) the
TA would be voted down.

Anyway, that is the biggest problem that ALPA has, and has had the past 20 years, at least. Everyone is voting for what is best for them instead of what is best for the entire group, and vis a vis, the profession. That is why this career is where it is nowadays.

I guess you could say Congress has the same problem.

I disagree. Congress has cranial/rectal insertion disease.

Timbo 06-04-2012 01:14 PM

I believe getting elected to Congress is still the quickest way to become a Millionaire, so while to us working stiffs it appears they have their heads up and locked, they are in fact;

"The best politicians money can buy"

The problem for us pee-ons is, we don't have enough money to buy any.

http://www.nationofchange.org/half-m...res-1321455440

acl65pilot 06-04-2012 01:18 PM

Slow;

Question. Is the DPMP medical plan going to the Gold HRA or similar?

slowplay 06-04-2012 01:52 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1204779)
Slow;

Question. Is the DPMP medical plan going to the Gold HRA or similar?

No. It is picking up some of the Gold HRA features ( Chiropractic care, emergency room visits, hospice, therapies, weight loss, prescription coinsurance/copays) but it will most closely resemble the DPMP Option N with an 18.5% rate reduction.

acl65pilot 06-04-2012 02:53 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1204813)
No. It is picking up some of the Gold HRA features ( Chiropractic care, emergency room visits, hospice, therapies, weight loss, prescription coinsurance/copays) but it will most closely resemble the DPMP Option N with an 18.5% rate reduction.


I saw part of that in the NNP. Thanks for the calcification. I really liked the rate reduction part of the TA. It is by far one of the biggest gains for the DAL pilots.

Will the co-pays et al remain unchanged for DPMP, or is it going to a higher deductible sort of plan?

I have always loved this plan, but it was too expensive for my family. The reduction in plan costs for the pilot is something that I really liked seeing in the TA.

shiznit 06-04-2012 06:52 PM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1204857)
I saw part of that in the NNP. Thanks for the calcification. I really liked the rate reduction part of the TA. It is by far one of the biggest gains for the DAL pilots.

Will the co-pays et al remain unchanged for DPMP, or is it going to a higher deductible sort of plan?

I have always loved this plan, but it was too expensive for my family. The reduction in plan costs for the pilot is something that I really liked seeing in the TA.

As far as I recall, the DPMP N will go from 27% down to 22%.

The 2011 premium for a family plan was $429/mo.

It will drop to $369/mo.

10000 06-04-2012 07:10 PM

The List ? ? ?
 
From the quote below anyone want to try to guess what is included to our benefit or to the company? Anyway to get a list prior to the vote?



"Should the pilot group vote to ratify the TA, most of the terms will go into effect on July 1, 2012, while certain features will be implemented no later than the schedule that will be made available to you shortly. For example, some items will be delayed due to necessary software programming"

johnso29 06-04-2012 07:27 PM


Originally Posted by 10000 (Post 1204981)
From the quote below anyone want to try to guess what is included to our benefit or to the company? Anyway to get a list prior to the vote?



"Should the pilot group vote to ratify the TA, most of the terms will go into effect on July 1, 2012, while certain features will be implemented no later than the schedule that will be made available to you shortly. For example, some items will be delayed due to necessary software programming"

I know some issues are also related to the FTDT regs. For instance, 7 SC's will be delayed until international 14 hour SC is implemented with the new FTDT regs.

shiznit 06-04-2012 07:36 PM


Originally Posted by 10000 (Post 1204981)
From the quote below anyone want to try to guess what is included to our benefit or to the company? Anyway to get a list prior to the vote?



"Should the pilot group vote to ratify the TA, most of the terms will go into effect on July 1, 2012, while certain features will be implemented no later than the schedule that will be made available to you shortly. For example, some items will be delayed due to necessary software programming"

No contract goes 100% into effect on day 1. There are changes that will take a schedule to implement. If the TA is ratified then the company and NC will sit down and construct a schedule that will determine when items will go into effect. This has been the process at every airline and every contract/LOA I've ever been a party to.


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