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flyallnite 06-05-2012 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by eruption (Post 1205352)
Oh, you'll be effecient.....

Day 1...7 hour block

Day 2....5 hour block

Day 3.... 24 hour sit

Etc....

At the end of 8 days you be bumping 30 in 7, but get 36 hours pay....due to the 4+30 rule

Actually E, you won't have the 30 in 7 with the new regs, that goes away. You now have look back duty periods. This way, they can keep us on the road, subject to reroute (thereby saving reserves) and abuse you until you cry uncle and fake a back injury to get home. Of course, you'll be needing that doctors note:)

Denny Crane 06-05-2012 08:53 AM


Originally Posted by eruption (Post 1205352)
Oh, you'll be effecient.....

Day 1...7 hour block

Day 2....5 hour block

Day 3.... 24 hour sit

Etc....

At the end of 8 days you be bumping 30 in 7, but get 36 hours pay....due to the 4+30 rule

EDIT part: Forgot to add to less efficient aspect that you mock is just down the road when the new FAR rest rules take effect....You will get your rest....just not at home!


Just curious, what about trip rig (1 for 3.5)? It seems to be a factor on longer trips...

Denny

johnso29 06-05-2012 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1205361)
Just curious, what about trip rig (1 for 3.5)? It seems to be a factor on longer trips...

Denny

There is that as well. An 8 day trip would be worth around 50-55 hours.

eruption 06-05-2012 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by johnso29 (Post 1205354)
And your source? I'll have to do some digging to see if the new FTDT rigs allow what your proposing. It sounds far fetched.

In your example the trip is already worth 16:45 hours.

Dig all you want.....

It's just like the show with Jody Foster..."Contact"

It was all so confusing until they found the "Primer", then it became totally clear how to build the time travel machine....

The new FAR work/rest rules are the Primer for unlocking the "gotchas" of this TA.


Just like the new Scope! Bring up Large RJ's up to 325. Then lock in the block hour ratio.....

Once locked....Shrink mainline and drop the remaining 111 50 seat RJ's to maintain correct ratio.

Once mainline is shrunk....bring on next merger

Pay Management handsomely! They really are THAT good! Tip of the hat to Anderson..... suckas!

johnso29 06-05-2012 08:59 AM


Originally Posted by eruption (Post 1205365)
Dig all you want.....

It's just like the show with Jody Foster..."Contact"

It was all so confusing until they found the "Primer", then it became totally clear how to build the time travel machine....

The new FAR work/rest rules are the Primer for unlocking the "gotchas" of this TA.


Just like the new Scope! Bring up Large RJ's up to 325. Then lock in the block hour ratio.....

Once locked....Shrink mainline and drop the remaining 111 50 seat RJ's to maintain correct ratio.

Once mainline is shrunk....bring on next merger

Pay Management handsomely! They really are THAT good! Tip of the hat to Anderson..... suckas!

Sometimes I wonder if people even read our contract, or the current TA. :)

NERD 06-05-2012 09:04 AM

Bidding question. I have shadow days the first 6 of July. Suppose to finish training end of June with OE to follow. How do the shadow days affect the way I bid? Thanks

eruption 06-05-2012 09:17 AM


Originally Posted by Denny Crane (Post 1205361)
Just curious, what about trip rig (1 for 3.5)? It seems to be a factor on longer trips...

Denny

Yep should have typed 7 days...not 8

Example....Day 1 depart ATL 2200 to West coast. TAFB 3 hrs

Day 2-5 what ever, but 5 days X 24 TAFB 120 hrs

Day 7 Red Eye back TAFB 3 hrs


At 1 to 3.5 Pay is 36 hours

80ktsClamp 06-05-2012 09:20 AM


Originally Posted by eruption (Post 1205352)
Oh, you'll be effecient.....

Day 1...7 hour block

Day 2....5 hour block

Day 3.... 24 hour sit

Etc....

At the end of 8 days you be bumping 30 in 7, but get 36 hours pay....due to the 4+30 rule

EDIT part: Forgot to add to less efficient aspect that you mock is just down the road when the new FAR rest rules take effect....You will get your rest....just not at home!

You're missing our trip rig, eruption. Most of your assumptions are off base and skewed.

80ktsClamp 06-05-2012 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by eruption (Post 1205365)
Dig all you want.....

It's just like the show with Jody Foster..."Contact"

It was all so confusing until they found the "Primer", then it became totally clear how to build the time travel machine....

The new FAR work/rest rules are the Primer for unlocking the "gotchas" of this TA.


Just like the new Scope! Bring up Large RJ's up to 325. Then lock in the block hour ratio.....

Once locked....Shrink mainline and drop the remaining 111 50 seat RJ's to maintain correct ratio.

Once mainline is shrunk....bring on next merger

Pay Management handsomely! They really are THAT good! Tip of the hat to Anderson..... suckas!

It is highly unlikely that they would drop the remaining 50 seaters... there is a place for them, just they over bought them by a large margin.

I do think that the scope section and even with the delivery of all the 717s will create as few as 220 new pilot positions, though. That number has not been disputed.

eruption 06-05-2012 09:31 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1205395)
It is highly unlikely that they would drop the remaining 50 seaters... there is a place for them, just they over bought them by a large margin.

I do think that the scope section and even with the delivery of all the 717s will create as few as 220 new pilot positions, though. That number has not been disputed.

"Highly unlikely"......well if you say so.....


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