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rvr350 06-11-2012 10:25 PM


Originally Posted by jabwmu (Post 1210163)
Sick out question on reserve.

Suppose you get sick and have 1 day left on reserve, followed by 1 day off, followed by more on call days. For example:

Tues: Reserve (Call in Sick)
Wed: Off
Thur: Reserve
Fri: Reserve (Call in Well)

If you call in sick on Tuesday and call in well on Friday, is this considered 1 sick call? How does the company handle the Off day? Would you use sick time on the Off day?

Thanks.

I believe you only accululated one sick call. It doesnt matter if you have days off in the middle, its from you call in sick to when you call in well. I am not 100% if your off day burns any of your sick bank though. Id look at the pwa more closely.

sailingfun 06-12-2012 12:36 AM


Originally Posted by crewdawg52 (Post 1210053)
I guess the DTW LEC rep is "full of dung" too...............

A response to an email I sent My LEC rep


On Jun 11, 2012, at 19:14, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote:



Sorry to bother you. I know you've been very busy lately. One ? Approx how much will the mx on the 5o seaters cost? I've heard anywhere from $200 million, to $2.5 billion. I tend to believe the closer to $2.5 billion.

Thx



Mixed numbers from 1-2.5b. 2b was initial number given MEC. Not important. Critical number is how much company will save with parking rjs. This is a one time cost and we should get a "finders fee". At nieces graduation in Oregon. Back in Dtw tomorrow. Call if you wish


Why should we get a finders fee? The cost of overhauls is a cost of doing business. The aircraft then generate revenue to cover the cost. If we want a finders fee for the overhauls they don't have to do if they park the RJ's then who has to pay for the replacement aircraft? You know the
717's and new RJ's. The are not free and will cost more then the overhauls. The company would like to do it however because again they think the aircraft can generate the revenue to cover the costs.
When you go to car shop for a new car do you say? Honey, We are going to save a ton of money. If we keep the old car the maintenance and overhauls it will need would cost us 1200.00 dollars this year. We save that if we get a new car so its a great deal. Wife replies, thats great honey but the payment on the new car is 6000 dollars a year every year!

80ktsClamp 06-12-2012 12:40 AM

Remember sailing, those RJs were the forward end of the rape job placed on DL and NW pilots.

How does it feel to help pay to clean up the mess that they made ramming those things where the sun don't shine with this TA?

forgot to bid 06-12-2012 02:33 AM


Originally Posted by sailingfun (Post 1210186)
You know the 717's and new RJ's. The are not free and will cost more then the overhauls. The company would like to do it however because again they think the aircraft can generate the revenue to cover the costs.

How did we get so off course that we're so concerned with making the outsourcing of our jobs more profitable?

dalad 06-12-2012 02:57 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1210191)
How did we get so off course that we're so concerned with making the outsourcing of our jobs more profitable?

Just saw mainline service returning to VXV. Could MGM, AVL, and CSG be next? Is this a hint of what some of the 717's will do?

acl65pilot 06-12-2012 03:12 AM


Originally Posted by dalad (Post 1210198)
Just saw mainline service returning to VXV. Could MGM, AVL, and CSG be next? Is this a hint of what some of the 717's will do?

Yes it is. It will be a good thing to see.

dalad 06-12-2012 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1210202)
Yes it is. It will be a good thing to see.

Sorry, I meant CHA. I remember as an MD-88 FO in the early 90's going to all those places including AGS.

slowplay 06-12-2012 03:29 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1210189)
Remember sailing, those RJs were the forward end of the rape job placed on DL and NW pilots.

How does it feel to help pay to clean up the mess that they made ramming those things where the sun don't shine with this TA?

Is somebody getting hormone swings from the pregnancy?

I didn't know the 25 year old 2008 hire had feelings:D

Not directed at you, but your post is a good springboard. Some of you guys are confusing me...making up spreadsheets or throwing Mettler math and talking about "facts", then when those are shown to be made up talking about feelings.

There's got to be a good Youtube that would fit here.

slowplay 06-12-2012 03:32 AM


Originally Posted by acl65pilot (Post 1210202)
Yes it is. It will be a good thing to see.

But you don't want to see it.

311 CRJ-200 under contract through 2015. Management wants 125, and with us they can get there. Without us they will probably get about halfway there. 75-100 additional 50 seaters that don't need to be backfilled by mainline.

Connect those dots.:rolleyes:

sailingfun 06-12-2012 03:43 AM

You don't have to invent reasons to vote no for the contract or as some are doing just make things up. I had certain expectations of this contract. It fails those expectations up front in pay and retirement. I don't have to dream up other areas. I am however also under no illusions about voting no. I do not expect the company to come back to the table and sweeten the pot. Its not the way Delta has ever done business with unions and its not the way RA has done business. I can handle the traditional route. For me it comes down to respect. The company has shown a lack of respect for the pilot group and the sacrifices we have made to help get the company back to the position it is in today. The company has approached this as a business decision only. They know the RLA gives them the clout to make this the best offer and more then likely the most pay we can expect. I think they underestimate the simple respect factor and that it will not pass.
I read some of the no vote reasons and can't stop laughing. What next someone posting "Hey I read the contract and there is nothing to protect us from a Volcano erupting in Atlanta and covering the airport in 3 feet of ash! My god how could Dalpa overlook the possibility!".
You can vote no on nothing more then pay and retirement and a little respect that was due to the pilot group for the sacrifices we have made. No BS is needed.


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