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sinca3 10-22-2012 05:04 PM


Originally Posted by slowplay (Post 1281073)
I haven't had any problems today. You on the road or at home?

I haven't been logged out today, but Deltanet and especially Icrew has been painfully slow for myself and at least one other person the past week or two.

PilotFrog 10-22-2012 05:17 PM


Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy (Post 1281072)
The AWCAS was unstable (receiver's fault) and the boom operator initiated the contact when the receiver was unstable (tanker's fault). It looks like there was either an inner or upper limit disconnect (compressing the boom). However, after the disconnect, notice the AWCAS moves downward (too fast actually). This causes a low pressure between the airplanes. The tanker's autopilot senses that low pressure and assumes a climb (higher pressure down low, lower pressures up high) and starts trimming to counteract those forces. But the trim rate cannot keep up with what the autopilot is sensing and the autopilot abruptly disconnects. This causes an immediate nose down pitch change caused by the now out of trim tanker (remember the autopilot thought it was climbing due to the low pressure and was trimming nose down). The tanker then quickly dives into the receiver until the pilots can react. And as such, the receiver gets a very close and uncomfortable view of the tanker's tail. The KC-135 is very susceptible to this -- the KC-10 is not. Any large receiver moving up or down too fast most likely will cause the KC-135 autopilot to kick off. I have had it happen at night while in the weather. I was flying a KC-10 receiving gas from a KC-135. I could have sworn my co-pilot had yanked the controls and pitched us up into the tanker when in reality, it was the tanker coming down towards us. It was one of the more scarier moments I've experienced in flight.

The only time the AP kicked off for me was when a KC-10 underran us. If you don't get under the tail, the AP can keep up. Stop getting under us, you're no chick, even though you take the boom. Cept a KC-10 gives and receives, I guess that speaks for itself.

KC10 FATboy 10-22-2012 05:26 PM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1281082)
The only time the AP kicked off for me was when a KC-10 underran us. If you don't get under the tail, the AP can keep up. Stop getting under us, you're no chick, even though you take the boom. Cept a KC-10 gives and receives, I guess that speaks for itself.

I'm not going to argue because we're friends. hahaha ... but I have seen the autopilot come off without under running the tanker. I shudder to think what would have happened had we under ran the tanker and that autopilot came off. That would not have had a good outcome.

RetiredFTS 10-22-2012 05:29 PM

Can someone please post some of the pictures that got Jesse in trouble? I don't want to repeat his mistakes.

forgot to bid 10-22-2012 05:35 PM


Originally Posted by PilotFrog (Post 1281082)
The only time the AP kicked off for me was when a KC-10 underran us. If you don't get under the tail, the AP can keep up. Stop getting under us, you're no chick, even though you take the boom. Cept a KC-10 gives and receives, I guess that speaks for itself.

fifty shades of tanker flying

firstmob 10-22-2012 05:58 PM

Any word on 3Q earning?

tsquare 10-22-2012 06:04 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1280615)
Yes nice coaches win championships. It just requires Superman as a QB, super senior O&D line and a one man wrecking crew at nose tackle. check out the cheerleaders reaction there*.

http://www.thewareaglereader.com/wp-...9/supercam.jpg

After that happens, it ain't pretty. Maybe nice guys are too soft?

I mean winning coaches seem to be mean. After all it was Bear Bryant who tortured the junction boys, Colin Cowherd used to play a hissing snake sound in the background as Saban talked and NFL coaches look like they live in dungeons.

Just wait, Bobby Petrinio vs Nick Saban in the Iron Bowl. It'll be really good football. but man, i hope petrino has learned his lesson... about riding motorcycles.

*cheerleader in the short skirt, not the dude. if you looked at the dude, you deserve what you got.

Scumbag though he is... Petrino is on his way to Knoxville.

forgot to bid 10-22-2012 06:09 PM

you'll win with him. anyone will. but you will feel dirty.

given auburns history with Bobby, a buddy said he'd cancel his season tickets if we hire him. but... we'd win.

tsquare 10-22-2012 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1281108)
you'll win with him. anyone will. but you will feel dirty.

given auburns history with Bobby, a buddy said he'd cancel his season tickets if we hire him. but... we'd win.

Yeah I was yankin your chain. I don't think the alums would let him be hired in Knoxville. If coach DD gets the ax, it will spell a few more years of mediocrity in Big Orange Country.

forgot to bid 10-22-2012 06:14 PM

i think he ends up in the sec though. .. Kentucky?


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