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727C47 02-20-2013 02:08 AM

i'm a freightdog, not a DAL guy , you gents crack me up,this thread is the best on going road show on any forum, sort of like Cats used to be on Broadway, running daily for years and years, God bless and thanks for the entertainment !!! by the way you all have a great thing going on and an airline to be proud of.

Phuz 02-20-2013 02:22 AM


Originally Posted by forgot to bid (Post 1356143)
Isn't the E170 and E175 the same type rating? As is the CR7 and CR9?

The 70 seaters are 20 seats larger than the 50 seaters. The 76 seaters only add 6 more seats.

Although they could add a lot more. :(

All correct. The difference between the cr2 and cr7 is much greater than the difference between the 7/9. The only thing i'd add about the seating difference is that we're carrying 12 FC seats on the cr9/e175 versus 9 on the cr7/170. A small difference, but usairways felt it was important enough to stop running their cr9/175 fleet all coach and voluntarily reduced their outsourced seat capacity to add FC seats on their "express" product.

DeadHead 02-20-2013 02:42 AM


Originally Posted by buzzpat (Post 1356208)
The constant ALPA/DALPA chest thumping and dirt slinging really gets old on here. I would think/hope my reps would be above this. I know that's a lot to ask but c'mon guys. Sheesh.

We've circled back to it....Next on deck....FPL Ninjas.

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Rather B Fishin 02-20-2013 02:45 AM


Originally Posted by TANSTAAFL (Post 1356139)
And he didn't even announce until the MEC meeting began and won majority support to beat out HK? Seriously?

I'm seriously glad he won. He'll be a good addition.

LeineLodge 02-20-2013 02:55 AM


Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin (Post 1356253)
I'm seriously glad he won. He'll be a good addition.

Absolutely correct. Standup guy that will do a great job for the Delta pilots.

HK will also be missed for his experience and ability to simply explain complex topics. We really couldn't have gone wrong having either guy working on our behalf....

Wilbur Wright 02-20-2013 03:22 AM

No discussion about the return to three negotiators?

TANSTAAFL 02-20-2013 04:18 AM


Originally Posted by Wilbur Wright (Post 1356260)
No discussion about the return to three negotiators?

I don't think it really matters. If anything big comes along there is a wealth of subject matter experts to draw on. What is more germane is they actually follow the direction they are given and report back for redirection if they can't (insert standard drivel over the MEC can shoot down a TA if they don't like it or are micromanaging and tie negotiators hands, blah, blah)

capncrunch 02-20-2013 04:41 AM


Originally Posted by alfaromeo (Post 1356170)
Big difference, fellow blowhard, when I took someone's money, I worked for them and supported them...

Interesting since all you do is tell us how you see it and then name call if we disagree.

scambo1 02-20-2013 04:52 AM


Originally Posted by capncrunch (Post 1356278)
Interesting since all you do is tell us how you see it and then name call if we disagree.

Not just us.

I like having ALFA here. His perspective is a window into the mind of the MEC.

alfaromeo 02-20-2013 05:07 AM


Originally Posted by GunshipGuy (Post 1356183)
I don't think your analogy is all that good of one. One's a union, the other a business. As much as one might want to think of a union as a business it's truly not the same. Thus, not an appropriate analogy.

I can't disagree any more. ALPA manages a $2 billion a year contract and their primary function is to conduct business negotiations. I have seen unions that operate in an every man for himself fashion and they are spectacularly unsuccessful. There is nothing easier than individuals in a union to spout off about how tough they are and how terrible every else is. Look at me, look at me, aren't I the tough one, don't you love me now? If you want an encounter group go call Dr. Phil. If you are managing my pay and benefits act like a business with some internal discipline. If you have no discipline then you can go back to sitting on the sidelines and throwing rocks. Don't take my money and then tear down the organization. If I wanted a mob I could get one much cheaper.


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