Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-23-2012 | 02:21 AM
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Q7. What is the latest with Delta’s fleet strategy? How do we plan to address our future fleet needs?
A. We continue to pursue an opportunistic fleet strategy that features acquisition and deployment of the most efficient aircraft available to meet the needs of our customers. We have employed this strategy to acquire both new and used aircraft to replace mainline (DC9s, older 757s) and regional (50-seat jets, Saab turboprops) aircraft. On the new side, we finalized a deal last summer with Boeing to purchase 100 new 737-900ER jets, which will begin delivery next year. On the used side, we have been buying MD-90s and will have 65 of these flexible, cost-efficient planes in service by the end of next year. You have probably also heard that the recent announcement of Delta’s tentative agreement with our pilots could provide the opportunity to accelerate the fleet strategy with the addition of 88 Boeing 717 aircraft to the mainline fleet, subject to pilot ratification of the agreement.
I'm sure the "cost neutral" (which was never said by management and only said by the C20 rep, btw) guys will now claim what used to be their burning bush is inaccurate...
Q7. What is the latest with Delta’s fleet strategy? How do we plan to address our future fleet needs?
A. We continue to pursue an opportunistic fleet strategy that features acquisition and deployment of the most efficient aircraft available to meet the needs of our customers. We have employed this strategy to acquire both new and used aircraft to replace mainline (DC9s, older 757s) and regional (50-seat jets, Saab turboprops) aircraft. On the new side, we finalized a deal last summer with Boeing to purchase 100 new 737-900ER jets, which will begin delivery next year. On the used side, we have been buying MD-90s and will have 65 of these flexible, cost-efficient planes in service by the end of next year. You have probably also heard that the recent announcement of Delta’s tentative agreement with our pilots could provide the opportunity to accelerate the fleet strategy with the addition of 88 Boeing 717 aircraft to the mainline fleet, subject to pilot ratification of the agreement.
I'm sure the "cost neutral" (which was never said by management and only said by the C20 rep, btw) guys will now claim what used to be their burning bush is inaccurate...
Regardless of how this TA goes, it will be imperative to purge you, alfaromeo, O'Malley and every single person from the MEC administration. You have all failed so badly that I'm embarrassed to be associated with you. You've shamed this pilot group by your behavior and abuse of power.
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06-23-2012 | 04:46 AM
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From RA's own keyboard:
Q7. What is the latest with Delta’s fleet strategy? How do we plan to address our future fleet needs?
A. We continue to pursue an opportunistic fleet strategy that features acquisition and deployment of the most efficient aircraft available to meet the needs of our customers. We have employed this strategy to acquire both new and used aircraft to replace mainline (DC9s, older 757s) and regional (50-seat jets, Saab turboprops) aircraft. On the new side, we finalized a deal last summer with Boeing to purchase 100 new 737-900ER jets, which will begin delivery next year. On the used side, we have been buying MD-90s and will have 65 of these flexible, cost-efficient planes in service by the end of next year. You have probably also heard that the recent announcement of Delta’s tentative agreement with our pilots could provide the opportunity to accelerate the fleet strategy with the addition of 88 Boeing 717 aircraft to the mainline fleet, subject to pilot ratification of the agreement.
Q7. What is the latest with Delta’s fleet strategy? How do we plan to address our future fleet needs?
A. We continue to pursue an opportunistic fleet strategy that features acquisition and deployment of the most efficient aircraft available to meet the needs of our customers. We have employed this strategy to acquire both new and used aircraft to replace mainline (DC9s, older 757s) and regional (50-seat jets, Saab turboprops) aircraft. On the new side, we finalized a deal last summer with Boeing to purchase 100 new 737-900ER jets, which will begin delivery next year. On the used side, we have been buying MD-90s and will have 65 of these flexible, cost-efficient planes in service by the end of next year. You have probably also heard that the recent announcement of Delta’s tentative agreement with our pilots could provide the opportunity to accelerate the fleet strategy with the addition of 88 Boeing 717 aircraft to the mainline fleet, subject to pilot ratification of the agreement.
06-23-2012 | 05:33 AM
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Bill, it seems it's you that don't understand the other sides point! Have you even tried to see that side and have a constructive argument or debate?
I'm not saying either side is right, but you seem so hard up to prove your point and get Yes votes that you are failing to at least acknowledge the possibility of the con argument.
I'm not saying either side is right, but you seem so hard up to prove your point and get Yes votes that you are failing to at least acknowledge the possibility of the con argument.
06-23-2012 | 05:52 AM
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If you vote yes to this TA you extend the life of DCI. With more large rj's you decrease the delta pilots leverage for future negotiations. Our current language, and current uneconomical 50 seater's are much more powerful than the language proposed.
My personal opinion is that if you think the 717s are tied to this deal you aren't smart enough to cast a vote for this TA.
Guys are posting photos of 717 markings already painted in msp.
Do you think southwest airlines is going to hinge their entire fleet plan on how a bunch of delta pilots vote?
I've personally flown with numerous captains who have had FAA jumpseaters that state flat out that the 717's are a done deal.
How many more clues do you guys need?
My personal opinion is that if you think the 717s are tied to this deal you aren't smart enough to cast a vote for this TA.
Guys are posting photos of 717 markings already painted in msp.
Do you think southwest airlines is going to hinge their entire fleet plan on how a bunch of delta pilots vote?
I've personally flown with numerous captains who have had FAA jumpseaters that state flat out that the 717's are a done deal.
How many more clues do you guys need?
06-23-2012 | 06:04 AM
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The painted lines for the 717 have been their for years! I wouldn't put too much thought into that....I noticed it first time I flew into MSP over 5 years ago.
06-23-2012 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by fly2002
If you vote yes to this TA you extend the life of DCI. With more large rj's you decrease the delta pilots leverage for future negotiations. Our current language, and current uneconomical 50 seater's are much more powerful than the language proposed.
My personal opinion is that if you think the 717s are tied to this deal you aren't smart enough to cast a vote for this TA.
Guys are posting photos of 717 markings already painted in msp.
Do you think southwest airlines is going to hinge their entire fleet plan on how a bunch of delta pilots vote?
I've personally flown with numerous captains who have had FAA jumpseaters that state flat out that the 717's are a done deal.
How many more clues do you guys need?
My personal opinion is that if you think the 717s are tied to this deal you aren't smart enough to cast a vote for this TA.
Guys are posting photos of 717 markings already painted in msp.
Do you think southwest airlines is going to hinge their entire fleet plan on how a bunch of delta pilots vote?
I've personally flown with numerous captains who have had FAA jumpseaters that state flat out that the 717's are a done deal.
How many more clues do you guys need?
And if the 88 717s are a done deal, would you rather get nothing? Why not take your money?
Fact. If we create a new fleet of SNB aircraft, DCI will shrink by 20% plus (under the TA, and without).
How does that work?
06-23-2012 | 06:10 AM
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06-23-2012 | 06:13 AM
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If you vote yes to this TA you extend the life of DCI. With more large rj's you decrease the delta pilots leverage for future negotiations. Our current language, and current uneconomical 50 seater's are much more powerful than the language proposed.
My personal opinion is that if you think the 717s are tied to this deal you aren't smart enough to cast a vote for this TA.
Guys are posting photos of 717 markings already painted in msp.
Do you think southwest airlines is going to hinge their entire fleet plan on how a bunch of delta pilots vote?
I've personally flown with numerous captains who have had FAA jumpseaters that state flat out that the 717's are a done deal.
How many more clues do you guys need?
My personal opinion is that if you think the 717s are tied to this deal you aren't smart enough to cast a vote for this TA.
Guys are posting photos of 717 markings already painted in msp.
Do you think southwest airlines is going to hinge their entire fleet plan on how a bunch of delta pilots vote?
I've personally flown with numerous captains who have had FAA jumpseaters that state flat out that the 717's are a done deal.
How many more clues do you guys need?
Yep, all makes complete sense. You have it all figured out. As I understand it there will be all sorts of elections later this year including the negotiators. I think you would be an excellent choice as you can provide second hand information from FAA jump seaters to the MEC and they will make a very informed decision based on this excellent intel and this will certainly lead to a superior contract.
06-23-2012 | 06:18 AM
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If the TA is voted down:
How many main line aircraft would DAL need to add to have 255 76 seaters?
If achieved, would ALL 102 70 seaters have to be parked?
If the TA is voted in favor:
Where does it say they have to reduce 50 seaters? I can't find it.
Thanks.
06-23-2012 | 06:22 AM
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So again, why not outsource the B717 Bill?
Why do you want to outsource the DC9-10 and not the DC9-30 sized airplanes?
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