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Old 06-28-2012 | 04:17 AM
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...execute their plan years earlier than without the " cooperation of the 6000 alpa represented professional pilots who understand the time value of money". That is what I call bi-winning.
Very sneaky.
Old 06-28-2012 | 04:22 AM
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Bad joke. I just couldn't help it.

When you start reading Boomer posts you start feeling the pressure to say something funny too.
Old 06-28-2012 | 04:26 AM
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Just add 2, 4 or 6 days to your current day, and that's when you can book the jumpseat for personal use, from work and to work, respectively. So by Noon Eastern on 7 Jul you can reserve a jumpseat for the 13th.
Old 06-28-2012 | 04:53 AM
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Got it, thanks.

Originally Posted by Elvis90
Just add 2, 4 or 6 days to your current day, and that's when you can book the jumpseat for personal use, from work and to work, respectively. So by Noon Eastern on 7 Jul you can reserve a jumpseat for the 13th.
Old 06-28-2012 | 06:53 AM
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I thought this was interesting. After voting, I noticed the articles scrolling by and found this one:

Delta Air Lines could save $473 million in engine maintenance, Bombardier CRJ200 ownership and Delta Connection contract costs if its pilots ratify a new collective bargaining agreement they will vote on this month, Aviation Week reported.

Delta Air Lines could save $473M with new pilot contract - Business Courier

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Old 06-28-2012 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotc90a
I thought this was interesting. After voting, I noticed the articles scrolling by and found this one:

Delta Air Lines could save $473 million in engine maintenance, Bombardier CRJ200 ownership and Delta Connection contract costs if its pilots ratify a new collective bargaining agreement they will vote on this month, Aviation Week reported.

Delta Air Lines could save $473M with new pilot contract - Business Courier

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Can't possibly be....... This is not a cost-neutral TA, let alone one that actually saves the company money.



I think there was a similar article somebody posted from the NYTimes or somewhere like that.
Old 06-28-2012 | 07:26 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
How about in May 2015, we get a TA immediately instead of going through a protracted section 6.

And we get pay raises of 4/8.5/4/4. And 16 new B777-300s.

In exchange for reducing DCI from 450 to 387 airplanes because we finally get rid of all of the CR2s, we increase the 76-seaters by 63 airplanes yes, but no more ever. And we increase seating to 82.

It's neutral ASM growth. So as far as we we're all concerned, it's nothing different with DCI but we get pay raises, 773s, and we don't have to fight for a contract.
Here goes...

777's are international seats, and wouldn't have the impact of replacing DCI flying.

You gotta get the airframes in domestic flying to replace the DCI...Add 88 more 717/319/CS's.

(88 seems to be a magic and beautiful number don't you think?)

102 x 70 seats = 7140 seats
125 x 50 seats = 6250 seats

13,390 seats 227 airframes currently in those groups.

DAL wants to swap again? Awesome.

88 more SNB's, 227 RJ's ratioed out to increase 76's by another 77.

77 x 76 seats = 5852 seats. (decrease of 7,538 seats).

New DCI hull limit decreased from 450 to 300, whatever they want 76 seats and below. (hell give 'em 79, it'd be 900 system seats, decrease in DCI ASM's is still huge)

DCI percentage allowable changes to the DAL "planned" 64/36 presently, after swap 75/25 domestic block hour ratio.

1) No GTF's or "next-gen" powerplants allowed at DCI on anything above 30 seats.
2) ALK decreases to 20% max... on ALL routes
3) JV protection increases to 50% of EASK's, 50% of block hours, or 50% of segments, whichever is GREATEST
4) Whatever ACL thinks is necessary for foreign ownership protections.
5) Future DCI contracts only allowed to go to ALPA represented pilot groups, and also have flow-down provision.
6) newK anoints: himself to whatever title he wants, ftb 88 Fleet Captain, Shiz 88 Chief Line Check Airman, Ferd Pres. of FA hiring, jesse is Ferd's VP
7)DCI restricted to less than 7.5% over 900 miles, 3% hub to hub.
Old 06-28-2012 | 08:48 AM
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I miss Tsquare...
Old 06-28-2012 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by pilotc90a
I thought this was interesting. After voting, I noticed the articles scrolling by and found this one:

Delta Air Lines could save $473 million in engine maintenance, Bombardier CRJ200 ownership and Delta Connection contract costs if its pilots ratify a new collective bargaining agreement they will vote on this month, Aviation Week reported.

Delta Air Lines could save $473M with new pilot contract - Business Courier

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And that's just the engine maintenance? Not to mention stopping the hemorrhaging of all those money wasting jets on an operational level (gas, bumped pax, lease payments for insanely overpriced jets bought at peak bubble prices and locked into long term deals, etc). That's probably way more than just the re-engine cost.
Old 06-28-2012 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
And that's just the engine maintenance? Not to mention stopping the hemorrhaging of all those money wasting jets on an operational level (gas, bumped pax, lease payments for insanely overpriced jets bought at peak bubble prices and locked into long term deals, etc). That's probably way more than just the re-engine cost.
Guys who vote yes on this TA as is are not too bright, all the DALPA cheerleading not withstanding. There is more to be gained in this contract given what management stands to gain. Some people believe everything they are told though, including company supplied numbers (those given to DALPA to disseminate).

It's too bad because we likely will have to live with the set backs in this contract for a very long time (we are giving up what leverage we have. The next round we will likely be ignored by management).
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