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Old 06-29-2012 | 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr
More Delta brand flying for Delta pilots. I think ALPA did a masterful job crafting a PWA that moves block hours from non Delta pilots to Delta pilots.
where is that movement required?
Old 06-29-2012 | 04:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Waves
I have never sold a single day of vacation, but I was thinking what a waste that is.
I haven't either. Errrrr.....don't think I could if I wanted to.
Old 06-29-2012 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by 76drvr
More Delta brand flying for Delta pilots. More Delta pilot block hours, more Delta pilot jobs and upgrades. More flying, more jobs, more pay, great job ALPA!
And more Kool Aid!

Old 06-29-2012 | 04:36 PM
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Change in Topic:

Anyone know the number to ck loads for a ZED fair on USAIR?

Thanks Scoop
Old 06-29-2012 | 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Waves
I just spoke with my neighbor who is a very senior Captain with SkyWest. They are concerned with the results of this TA that some of their flying will now be going away. Especially with the 717’s coming. He spoke with some of his higher ups and they didn’t have many encouraging words to say about their future. BTW: Wow their sure are some sore losers here.
No where did I see when I voted that I was no longer entitled to a personal opinion if the vote didn't turn out how I desired. I think all who were No voters understand we have to live with what we have, but that shouldn't mean those who were Yes voters should expect views not in line with theirs to no longer be expressed.
Old 06-29-2012 | 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
where is that movement required?
Section 1.

Solid scope language overall, focussing on block hours and jobs while limiting the potential number of authorized 76 seat jets, closing the jumbo turboprop exemption, better furlough protection, better code share language, better joint venture protections. I think ALPA did a great job.
Old 06-29-2012 | 05:01 PM
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Originally Posted by dogwhisperer
fwiw.... Just spoke with a friend of mine that runs the crew outfitters stores and was told that they had been informed that hiring is going to start this fall and not stop... They are one of the main uniform suppliers so, hopefully, this is true....and not at the heavy rj providers...

boomer!....
Old 06-29-2012 | 05:05 PM
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I would like to thank all of the Delta pilots that voted yes on this TA. As a regional Pilot, we are going to grow like wild fire and fly better equipment. This TA was a good deal for you as well as for the Expressjet guys. Good times are coming our way..Thanks again....
Old 06-29-2012 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack Bauer
Not a sore loser. Just a realist. The pilot group has spoken. I had one vote and it wasn't enough. Moving on to some other things while preparing for the fallout of misleading promises from our union and work rules that are going to sting.

Peace...
It’s all good my friend. We are truly all on the same side. As punishment for some of your comments, I am sentencing you to read my boring explanation. But as a reward, I have now reinstated you on my Xmas card list. LOL
It’s all pretty much a moot point, but as I said before, until this vote, I have voted No all but one time. In those past elections, I had the exact same thoughts as I presume you are having now. Why did the dumb arses vote for this POS? Are they complete blind idiots? Do they not have the nads to fight for our profession? What a bunch of spineless turds. Does that about cover it? LMAO I’ve been their countless times. I totally get it. Ironically, I’m in agreement with you more than you know. Sometimes it took me months to get over being a minority voter when I adamantly felt it should have gone down in flames. Perhaps this one should have as well. Only time will tell. Here is why I voted for it instead of joining the admirable fight.
I voted for this thing for a few reasons. One of which I haven’t shared before because very few line pilots can relate to it or even care about it. It is the improvements to our disability and sick leave policy. You see, I was out on a ridiculous medical issue for nearly five years. Two of my closet friends were out for extended periods as well. We are all back flying, but we learned a thing or two while we were out. Believe me it will change one’s perspective, and it can happen to any one of us at anytime. Trust me. I never thought I would be on the side lines. If you go out, the current pay scale means everything. Not how many RJ’s are allowed. That does not mean we were not evaluating the Scope issue. We were.
Secondly, I too am a realist. I am not a doomsdayer pessimist, and I’m not a “Preparer,” but I truly believe we are living in an unprecedented economic bubble which if not corrected soon, will take a serious toll on the US and World economy unlike anything you or I have ever seen. In the past, I was always the one lamenting that we always negotiate our contracts when the economic environment is suffering, but it always turns around so we cannot and should not let that influence our negotiations. I am sad to say I think this time is very, very different. Put another way, our economy and global events are unprecedented in history. It’s actually better if you don’t share this belief, because it is not a pleasant thought to live with. Unless something good happens soon, our status quo is about to change. My point is that I didn’t want to be in prolonged negotiations to possibly squeeze out some deserved gains, while at the same time risking any known improvements from this contract. To me, a short three year contract was the perfect proving grounds to test the future economic waters.
I’m not normally a “Let’s get em next time,” kind of guy, but just this once, just this time, I think it was appropriate.
I hope you construe this as an untraceable, deniable, back arseward apology. Luv ya man!
Old 06-29-2012 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
No where did I see when I voted that I was no longer entitled to a personal opinion if the vote didn't turn out how I desired. I think all who were No voters understand we have to live with what we have, but that shouldn't mean those who were Yes voters should expect views not in line with theirs to no longer be expressed.
Ease up Riply, that generic comment was meant for one person who (embarrassingly and surprisingly for me) knew it was meant for him. He graciously explained his position, and I have explained in excruciating and boring detail my position. I’m truly not reviling against the no voters. Contrarily, I am totally sympathetic with their ideology and cause. I have tried to explain many times why I pulled the Yes handle. Not many on this thread seem to care or share my view, but apparently 62% did.
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