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johnso29 08-01-2012 05:39 AM


Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp (Post 1238281)
You have to sign in for the trip!

That's what I remember, but with all these LOAs, MOUs, CDCs, MCDUs, NATS, WARTS, blah, blah, blah I wasn't sure if anything changed. :D

johnso29 08-01-2012 05:40 AM


Originally Posted by dragon (Post 1238282)
You have wait until report. If you have a front end DH as well, the time is the original report time not when you deviate.


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1238283)
I was always under the impression that you had to complete your trip before you could request to deviate from deadhead. That's what I've always done.

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Oh, disregard, 80 & dragon have the answer.

Thanks for chiming in guys. That'd what I thought dragon. Thanks. :)

80ktsClamp 08-01-2012 05:51 AM

I always look up the flight I want to back end deviate on, sign in, then go straight to icrew and do the deviation. That way I'm as far out as possible for booking it (highest chance for the flight I want being open).

Mike Hancho 08-01-2012 06:09 AM


Originally Posted by bluejuice71 (Post 1238213)
Man, where do you come up with this crap? 250 guys retiring early, 30 more MD90's coming, 88 717's coming, 737-9's coming, and in 2013 age 65 retirements kick in (although very slowly). Only way you're getting displaced is if you're on the DC9 & that's a good thing. You're either going to go to a much nicer airplane (717) or to a higher paying airplane. Win win.

Economy. Economy. Economy.

I flew with a former Pan Am guy who told me that was hired in the late eighties after they hadn't hired from the years 1966 till 1986. This was hard for me to believe. I mean, some guys had to retire during that time frame. So I found a second Pan Am guy who set it straight. It was 1966 till 1987.

NERD 08-01-2012 06:37 AM

imho. The jr guys should be thanking their lucky stars they are not furloughed now. Look around and stop the whining. Especially you hockey. The economy is weak everywhere, and for some reason Delta has been carrying an excess. We could have easily furloughed the last few years, but they keep offering just enough early outs to mitigate that.

Howgozit 08-01-2012 06:58 AM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1238305)
imho. The jr guys should be thanking their lucky stars they are not furloughed now. Look around and stop the whining. Especially you hockey. The economy is weak everywhere, and for some reason Delta has been carrying an excess. We could have easily furloughed the last few years, but they keep offering just enough early outs to mitigate that.

Hockey will complain even when he is in the left seat of a 747:eek: Are you all done with school?

Scoop 08-01-2012 07:00 AM


Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1238249)
In Nov 11 I was displaced from MSP A320 to MSP MD88. In Jun 12 I was displaced from MSP MD88 to ATL MD88. My fear is another displacement, probably to NYC MD88. I don't believe this August AE will staff 717s; that will likely be an Oct 12 AE.

Hence my concern that AE = displacement. However, with more MD-90's being added to MSP & ATL, then I'll probably be able to stay put, which is my desire. I'd like to stay on a plane for at least a year to learn it!


Elvis,

I don't think you will be displaced. Even if it were economic in the short term to displace you when taking a "snapshot" of manning - too many changes/churn/movement in the near future to be aggressive with displacements.

The company appears to be trying very hard to minimize training events (as evidenced by carrying extra dudes, early retirements etc) so as we say in the Navy, "Fair winds and following seas" for you. :)

Scoop

Ball Breaker 08-01-2012 07:02 AM


Originally Posted by NERD (Post 1238305)
imho. The jr guys should be thanking their lucky stars they are not furloughed now. Look around and stop the whining. Especially you hockey. The economy is weak everywhere, and for some reason Delta has been carrying an excess. We could have easily furloughed the last few years, but they keep offering just enough early outs to mitigate that.

At the same time, PLOA approvals are limited.

Elvis90 08-01-2012 07:02 AM


imho. The jr guys should be thanking their lucky stars they are not furloughed now. Look around and stop the whining. Especially you hockey. The economy is weak everywhere, and for some reason Delta has been carrying an excess. We could have easily furloughed the last few years, but they keep offering just enough early outs to mitigate that.
If I were furloughed I'd get a job with FedEx or some other carrier that's hiring, as some of my newhire classmates have already done.

I agree, however, about having a job, and that's precisely what I tell the captains I fly with, "I'm just glad to have a job in this economy". In terms of whining, it's just a fact that junior guys get displaced frequently, and I just gave some examples.

However, taking on new (or nearly new) equipment is a good thing for the company and for us.

Elvis90 08-01-2012 07:05 AM



Originally Posted by Elvis90 (Post 1238249)
In Nov 11 I was displaced from MSP A320 to MSP MD88. In Jun 12 I was displaced from MSP MD88 to ATL MD88. My fear is another displacement, probably to NYC MD88. I don't believe this August AE will staff 717s; that will likely be an Oct 12 AE.

Hence my concern that AE = displacement. However, with more MD-90's being added to MSP & ATL, then I'll probably be able to stay put, which is my desire. I'd like to stay on a plane for at least a year to learn it!


Elvis,

I don't think you will be displaced. Even if it were economic in the short term to displace you when taking a "snapshot" of manning - too many changes/churn/movement in the near future to be aggressive with displacements.

The company appears to be trying very hard to minimize training events (as evidenced by carrying extra dudes, early retirements etc) so as we say in the Navy, "Fair winds and following seas" for you. :)

Scoop
Thanks Scoop, I've had some of the same comments from Captains I've flown with. Commuting to ATL from DFW has been easier than DFW-MSP.


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