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Originally Posted by NERD
(Post 1238305)
imho. The jr guys should be thanking their lucky stars they are not furloughed now. Look around and stop the whining. Especially you hockey. The economy is weak everywhere, and for some reason Delta has been carrying an excess. We could have easily furloughed the last few years, but they keep offering just enough early outs to mitigate that.
Two years ago the threat of furlough was very real. We weathered that storm because management made a business decision based on economic outlook and our contract and decided there was more to gain by not furloughing. Fast forward to today and barring a catastrophic world event or a series of fuel-hedge missteps, Delta is on track for a third consecutive year of solid profitability. RA is playing the long game. It's one of further consolidation and the strategy will pay off in the end by improving stability and health of the US airline industry. I fully support the effort. But make no mistake, our career progression (or lack thereof) is financing the strategic plan. Capacity constraint as a mechanism to boost profitability is maxed out. Further gains can't come from shrinking and further contraction will just enable non-network carriers and boost their growth without adding to the bottom line. That's why current and future cuts are more in-line with a long term chess game setting up Delta for the a more advantageous position for consolidation in the airline industry. Unfortunately what makes a company successful is growth and our seniority-based system is intimately tied to that cart. Most likely any future growth won't be organic and that too will have an impact on seniority... Not luck, not stars, just plain business. Long term I do expect some career ROI ;-) Cheers George |
Originally Posted by iceman49
(Post 1238059)
Just curious, why would you think that all will be refilled when there 30% is carried on RSV.
"Crew resources plans on replacing all 744 pilots lost from RMA " Please do not shoot the messenger!:D |
Any final # on the early out bid? I heard it was around 260 as of yesterday.
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When do the fences come down on the 747 and 777? I'm so old, I can't remember.
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Originally Posted by orvil
(Post 1238349)
When do the fences come down on the 747 and 777? I'm so old, I can't remember.
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Originally Posted by georgetg
(Post 1238338)
poppycock, "luck" and "stars" have nothing to do with it...
Two years ago the threat of furlough was very real. We weathered that storm because management made a business decision based on economic outlook and our contract and decided there was more to gain by not furloughing. Fast forward to today and barring a catastrophic world event or a series of fuel-hedge missteps, Delta is on track for a third consecutive year of solid profitability. RA is playing the long game. It's one of further consolidation and the strategy will pay off in the end by improving stability and health of the US airline industry. I fully support the effort. But make no mistake, our career progression (or lack thereof) is financing the strategic plan. Capacity constraint as a mechanism to boost profitability is maxed out. Further gains can't come from shrinking and further contraction will just enable non-network carriers and boost their growth without adding to the bottom line. That's why current and future cuts are more in-line with a long term chess game setting up Delta for the a more advantageous position for consolidation in the airline industry. Unfortunately what makes a company successful is growth and our seniority-based system is intimately tied to that cart. Most likely any future growth won't be organic and that too will have an impact on seniority... Not luck, not stars, just plain business. Long term I do expect some career ROI ;-) Cheers George |
RMA Semi-Final: 320 CA
320 FO 330 CA 330 FO 88/90 CA 737 CA 744 CA 744 FO 757/767 CA 757/767 FO 767-400 CA 767-400 FO 767ER CA 767ER FO DC-9 777 Base Total ATL 1 0 8 1 4 3 0 0 2 1 5 0 8 0 0 2 35 DTW 6 0 28 2 0 0 39 10 0 0 0 0 16 0 1 0 102 MSP 24 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 18 1 0 0 44 SLC 7 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 9 SEA 0 0 18 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 0 0 0 27 NYC 1 0 0 0 1 2 0 0 1 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 8 LAX 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 1 0 0 4 NBC/INC 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 22 Total RMA 39 1 54 5 5 6 39 10 3 1 5 0 56 2 1 2 251 |
I thought the fences dropped Oct 31,2013... Wasn't that five years after SOC???
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Originally Posted by georgetg
(Post 1238338)
poppycock, "luck" and "stars" have nothing to do with it...
Two years ago the threat of furlough was very real. We weathered that storm because management made a business decision based on economic outlook and our contract and decided there was more to gain by not furloughing. Fast forward to today and barring a catastrophic world event or a series of fuel-hedge missteps, Delta is on track for a third consecutive year of solid profitability. RA is playing the long game. It's one of further consolidation and the strategy will pay off in the end by improving stability and health of the US airline industry. I fully support the effort. But make no mistake, our career progression (or lack thereof) is financing the strategic plan. Capacity constraint as a mechanism to boost profitability is maxed out. Further gains can't come from shrinking and further contraction will just enable non-network carriers and boost their growth without adding to the bottom line. That's why current and future cuts are more in-line with a long term chess game setting up Delta for the a more advantageous position for consolidation in the airline industry. Unfortunately what makes a company successful is growth and our seniority-based system is intimately tied to that cart. Most likely any future growth won't be organic and that too will have an impact on seniority... Not luck, not stars, just plain business. Long term I do expect some career ROI ;-) Cheers George |
Originally Posted by TheWagman
(Post 1238408)
I thought the fences dropped Oct 31,2013... Wasn't that five years after SOC???
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