Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
09-03-2012 | 02:48 PM
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In the long run, you may be right. Oil for the past 4+ years has been a vehicle for speculation (gambling) due to etf's.
My take; the refinery pays for itself in 1 year - after that it doesn't matter.
It is another form of vertical integration. It is no different than paying a lawn service $1000/year to mow your grass, then going out to buy your own push mower for $300 and doing it yourself.
My take; the refinery pays for itself in 1 year - after that it doesn't matter.
It is another form of vertical integration. It is no different than paying a lawn service $1000/year to mow your grass, then going out to buy your own push mower for $300 and doing it yourself.
Maybe they will buy another one in a different part of the country.
09-03-2012 | 04:21 PM
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I agree with you and the others. It remains to be seen whether we hire or not, so you can't say the net result will be a lie, but the premise was laid. Short of a set of new circumstances that could not be foreseen in June, if there is no hirin', there was some lyin'.
09-03-2012 | 04:23 PM
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Long term, the refinery was a very smart move. Takes some volatility out of our 12 Bln dollar expense. I just wish we would have kept all of the product to sell, but understand the arrangement de-risks it.
Maybe they will buy another one in a different part of the country.
Maybe they will buy another one in a different part of the country.
09-03-2012 | 05:01 PM
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speaking of oily crack spread, the backdoor entry for the package isn't working yet. Erm, the Oct bid package that is.
09-03-2012 | 05:05 PM
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is all I will say......
09-03-2012 | 05:12 PM
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In our favor or against us?
Have not heard that no furloughs were the quid for the concessions. Doesn't make sense either way. I know it was tic but putting it out there.
As for this deal, well, we bought it, and now it's ours. Was told that the FTDT loa starts negotiation October. That right there could cut as many if not more jobs than the TA.
As for how it's was sold or not sold, take that up with the current reps and those that work for them.
As for this deal, well, we bought it, and now it's ours. Was told that the FTDT loa starts negotiation October. That right there could cut as many if not more jobs than the TA.
As for how it's was sold or not sold, take that up with the current reps and those that work for them.
09-03-2012 | 05:15 PM
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From: right for a long, long time
Have not heard that no furloughs were the quid for the concessions. Doesn't make sense either way. I know it was tic but putting it out there.
As for this deal, well, we bought it, and now it's ours. Was told that the FTDT loa starts negotiation October. That right there could cut as many if not more jobs than the TA.
As for how it's was sold or not sold, take that up with the current reps and those that work for them.
As for this deal, well, we bought it, and now it's ours. Was told that the FTDT loa starts negotiation October. That right there could cut as many if not more jobs than the TA.
As for how it's was sold or not sold, take that up with the current reps and those that work for them.
09-03-2012 | 05:17 PM
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09-03-2012 | 05:38 PM
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Also, Shiz, I hope it is net positive and not marginally. Things like Fo rotation guarantee upon assignment are ways to make sure that reroutes are not the only way they deal with duty limit issues. In that regard reroute pay needs to be improved for domestic and international.
Nine hrs unaugmented and ULH rules could cause a lot of gains to be negated.
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09-03-2012 | 05:40 PM
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Not that I could hold the "Noah's Ark of the North." It's senior in Atlanta.
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